Michael Ejercito
2017-10-08 04:57:06 UTC
https://ethicsalarms.com/2017/10/07/comment-of-the-day-bret-stephens-capitulation-to-new-york-times-anti-second-amendment-culture/
Comment Of The Day: “Bret Stephens’ Capitulation To New York Times’
Anti-Second Amendment Culture”
Well, to be fair, who ever heard of a Jewish militia?
Ethics Alarms commenter Mrs. Q is quickly becoming a favorite here, and her
thoughtful and, as usual, refreshingly blunt commentary on the gun control
debate shows why.
Here is Mrs. Q’s Comment of the Day on the post, Bret Stephens’ Capitulation
To New York Times’ Anti-Second Amendment Culture…
“If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall
disarm it ourselves.”
-Joseph Stalin
***
“Given the FACT that per-capita death-by-gun rates are anywhere from 1,000%
to 3,000% higher in the US than in any other civilized country:
IS THIS A PROBLEM? OR NOT?”
“…what is YOUR solution to what seems, at least to me, to be a rather large
problem…”
—Charles Green (Ethics Alarms commenter)
***
Anti-2nd amendment enthusiasts and those in favor of the 2nd amendment have
two different ideas about what ‘the problem’ is. Having once been very
anti-gun to becoming in favor of the 2nd amendment (but not gun owner
myself) was a journey that redefined what the primary ‘problem’ is.
Like many leftists I could unquestioningly retort gun “facts”. Certainly I
still have concerns around gun violence, and generally pro 2nd amendment
folks think gun violence isn’t a good thing either. So first off if we’re
going to have a reasonable debate, we need to remember both sides care about
people and life. It’s how life is preserved and who it needs to be preserved
from – that makes the difference and defines ‘the problem’.
What began to change my mind was the view from those who were disarmed and
suffered greatly for it. As mentioned in the post, Jews (and Germans) were
disarmed before things got deadly crazy. In communist regimes the people,
except for military, were disarmed. In this country blacks and Native
Americans were disarmed and more easily murdered (When Bloomberg suggested,
in 2015 that black men should be disarmed, we should have seen that as a bad
sign). Let’s not forget that Wounded Knee was bigger mass murder than Las
Vegas…
Now lets consider how many lives have been lost because citizens were forced
to register their arms, were easier to find because of it, and eventually
died because they couldn’t protect themselves and their families from
tyrants. How many couldn’t have a gun in the 1st place and got killed? Would
anyone like to crunch those numbers?
As a woman here’s another view: Rape in Europe is skyrocketing and making
women vulnerable due to political correctness and a lack of self protection
that would truly stop a predator. In December 2015 the NY Times noted the
clear statistical connection between rapes and migrants. Kristin Rhode from
the Oslo PD testified that Norway was unwilling to admit “this was a big
problem.” Should women, gays, and others vulnerable to potential harmful
ideologies wait for a reluctant government more concerned with the
appearance of multiculturalism, to protect them? Is this what is meant by
“civilized” counties? No. Their socialism is not protecting them.
The problem for me today is much bigger than the unfortunate crazy who is
irresponsible and shoots into a crowd. The problem is the ever growing reach
of Marxist utopianism that we see from NFL players genuflecting to social
justice™ to Maxine Waters telling white law makers to “step aside” to
schools not including the aspects of history and world events I just
mentioned. The problem is an increasingly weak minded population only
concerned with emotional low hanging fruit arguments that squelch
intellectual debate. The problem is that if we continue to embrace more
limits on gun rights here, we will in fact be walking into a strange death
that has only been highlighted by Europe’s constant problems with terrorism,
rape, assault, etc.
The problem is an ever encroaching tyranny by globalist Marxism that is
tearing apart our country like it is other countries and further eroding
trust in our government. The problem is those unfamiliar with history are
too brainwashed by the smiley faced “we are One” ideology to understand how
such an ethos can lead to deadly destruction.
Living in the wild west includes the sometimes ugly consequences of freedom.
I’d rather live free and able to protect myself from militants, blood
thirsty communists, and rapists, than be taken over for an ideology that
smiles at me while taking everything I hold dear and trashing it. Autonomy
matters and it is worth defending against all who wish to take it away. If
we’re going to talk compromise, tell me why we should ignore history and
what’s happening in Europe first. Then tell me why we should trust a
government implicitly. And finally tell me how “this time” it’s going to be
different. Then I’ll talk compromise.
Comment Of The Day: “Bret Stephens’ Capitulation To New York Times’
Anti-Second Amendment Culture”
Well, to be fair, who ever heard of a Jewish militia?
Ethics Alarms commenter Mrs. Q is quickly becoming a favorite here, and her
thoughtful and, as usual, refreshingly blunt commentary on the gun control
debate shows why.
Here is Mrs. Q’s Comment of the Day on the post, Bret Stephens’ Capitulation
To New York Times’ Anti-Second Amendment Culture…
“If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall
disarm it ourselves.”
-Joseph Stalin
***
“Given the FACT that per-capita death-by-gun rates are anywhere from 1,000%
to 3,000% higher in the US than in any other civilized country:
IS THIS A PROBLEM? OR NOT?”
“…what is YOUR solution to what seems, at least to me, to be a rather large
problem…”
—Charles Green (Ethics Alarms commenter)
***
Anti-2nd amendment enthusiasts and those in favor of the 2nd amendment have
two different ideas about what ‘the problem’ is. Having once been very
anti-gun to becoming in favor of the 2nd amendment (but not gun owner
myself) was a journey that redefined what the primary ‘problem’ is.
Like many leftists I could unquestioningly retort gun “facts”. Certainly I
still have concerns around gun violence, and generally pro 2nd amendment
folks think gun violence isn’t a good thing either. So first off if we’re
going to have a reasonable debate, we need to remember both sides care about
people and life. It’s how life is preserved and who it needs to be preserved
from – that makes the difference and defines ‘the problem’.
What began to change my mind was the view from those who were disarmed and
suffered greatly for it. As mentioned in the post, Jews (and Germans) were
disarmed before things got deadly crazy. In communist regimes the people,
except for military, were disarmed. In this country blacks and Native
Americans were disarmed and more easily murdered (When Bloomberg suggested,
in 2015 that black men should be disarmed, we should have seen that as a bad
sign). Let’s not forget that Wounded Knee was bigger mass murder than Las
Vegas…
Now lets consider how many lives have been lost because citizens were forced
to register their arms, were easier to find because of it, and eventually
died because they couldn’t protect themselves and their families from
tyrants. How many couldn’t have a gun in the 1st place and got killed? Would
anyone like to crunch those numbers?
As a woman here’s another view: Rape in Europe is skyrocketing and making
women vulnerable due to political correctness and a lack of self protection
that would truly stop a predator. In December 2015 the NY Times noted the
clear statistical connection between rapes and migrants. Kristin Rhode from
the Oslo PD testified that Norway was unwilling to admit “this was a big
problem.” Should women, gays, and others vulnerable to potential harmful
ideologies wait for a reluctant government more concerned with the
appearance of multiculturalism, to protect them? Is this what is meant by
“civilized” counties? No. Their socialism is not protecting them.
The problem for me today is much bigger than the unfortunate crazy who is
irresponsible and shoots into a crowd. The problem is the ever growing reach
of Marxist utopianism that we see from NFL players genuflecting to social
justice™ to Maxine Waters telling white law makers to “step aside” to
schools not including the aspects of history and world events I just
mentioned. The problem is an increasingly weak minded population only
concerned with emotional low hanging fruit arguments that squelch
intellectual debate. The problem is that if we continue to embrace more
limits on gun rights here, we will in fact be walking into a strange death
that has only been highlighted by Europe’s constant problems with terrorism,
rape, assault, etc.
The problem is an ever encroaching tyranny by globalist Marxism that is
tearing apart our country like it is other countries and further eroding
trust in our government. The problem is those unfamiliar with history are
too brainwashed by the smiley faced “we are One” ideology to understand how
such an ethos can lead to deadly destruction.
Living in the wild west includes the sometimes ugly consequences of freedom.
I’d rather live free and able to protect myself from militants, blood
thirsty communists, and rapists, than be taken over for an ideology that
smiles at me while taking everything I hold dear and trashing it. Autonomy
matters and it is worth defending against all who wish to take it away. If
we’re going to talk compromise, tell me why we should ignore history and
what’s happening in Europe first. Then tell me why we should trust a
government implicitly. And finally tell me how “this time” it’s going to be
different. Then I’ll talk compromise.
