Discussion:
TEA Party members BLOCKED from voting for wearing the Gadsden Flag!!!
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unknown
2010-10-21 15:26:55 UTC
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Texas law says that, while in the polling place, you can’t advocate for or
against “any candidate, measure, or political party.” Granted, anyone with a
“Don’t tread on me” button is probably a safe bet to be voting GOP this year —
the left doesn’t remember colonial history, after all — but one can’t make
assumptions. For instance, would it be fair to assume that a guy in a
hammer-and-sickle t-shirt will always and everywhere be voting Democrat?

Actually, maybe that’s a bad example.

Katrina Pierson, who sits on the steering committee of the Dallas Tea Party
and is also involved with the Garland Tea Party, told The Daily Caller that
“around 11 o’clock yesterday,” a Garland Tea Party member, reported that she was
told by an election official that she could not vote unless she removed her
button. A second election official, Pierson said, did not recognize the button
and did not understand why the other official was not permitting the woman to
vote.

According to Pierson, the woman refused to remove her button, saying it was
a violation of her first amendment rights, and called the sheriff’s office. The
sheriff passed the matter on to the Dallas County Election Department, which
failed to act.

The woman opted not to vote until she had done more research and figured out
whether or not the election official was allowed to do that. The Garland Tea
Party is currently conducting that investigation on her behalf…

Pierson says, “It’s not electioneering, it’s not a candidate, it’s not a
party affiliation.”

A question for the election lawyers out there: If a tea-party candidate ended up
on the ballot as an independent, would that change the calculus here? Would it
change if the tea party became an actual political party and nominated someone
but didn’t take the Gadsden flag as its official symbol? It’s unclear to me how
far electioneering law would allow assumptions about advocacy and voting
intentions to be drawn from symbols that aren’t formally linked to a party. If I
go down to the polls next month in a Reagan t-shirt, it’s pretty clear which way
I’m leaning — but is it so clear that polling officials could make me take it
off?

Actually, I think it’d be rip-roaring fun to suspend electioneering laws this
year if only in Nevada, just to see how far the Angle/Reid blood feud would go
with their supporters unleashed. Forget t-shirts and buttons; I’m picturing
nunchuks and brass knuckles emblazoned with the campaign logos. No survivors.

===
Source: http://tinyurl.com/26jhjga

Wolfie note: For those of you not familiar with the Gadsden Flag. It's the
often seen at Tea Parties, "Don't thread on me" flag with a coiled snake! It
was used as the USMC flag.

Learn more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_flag

You can see the image of the flag here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gadsden_flag.svg

Ray
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Ray O'Hara
2010-10-21 15:31:08 UTC
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Texas law says that, while in the polling place, you can't advocate for or
against "any candidate, measure, or political party."
end of the story
wah wah wah they won't let us ignore the law. wah wah wah

and isn't Texas teabag central with Governor Rick Perry always talking
secession?

its your own side , the people you call "real Americans" who won't let them
vote.
unknown
2010-10-21 15:45:06 UTC
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Post by Ray O'Hara
Texas law says that, while in the polling place, you can't advocate for or
against "any candidate, measure, or political party."
end of the story
wah wah wah they won't let us ignore the law. wah wah wah
So... Libtard, which political party uses the Gadsden flag? Republican?
Democrat? Independent? None of the above? What a tool you are!

You seem to define "useful idiot"!

Ray
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http://youtu.be/TpYEK_kYgi4

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Join The Tea Party!
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Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill
Ray O'Hara
2010-10-21 17:18:53 UTC
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On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:31:08 -0400, "Ray O'Hara"
Post by Ray O'Hara
Texas law says that, while in the polling place, you can't advocate for or
against "any candidate, measure, or political party."
end of the story
wah wah wah they won't let us ignore the law. wah wah wah
So... Libtard, which political party uses the Gadsden flag? Republican?
Democrat? Independent? None of the above? What a tool you are!
You seem to define "useful idiot"!
Ray
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http://youtu.be/TpYEK_kYgi4
Obama National Anthem
http://youtu.be/l46t_nrySg4
Join The Tea Party!
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/
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virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill
you write "join the Tea Party" and also ask which party uses the Gadsen
Flag? it seems light did not break on Marblehead today.
and teabaggers are Republicans.
and again Texas is a ultra-rightwing state.
and here you are mad at the "Liberals"
it's not the Liberals screwing you you moron it's the rightwing.
unknown
2010-10-22 16:20:08 UTC
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Post by Ray O'Hara
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:31:08 -0400, "Ray O'Hara"
Post by Ray O'Hara
Texas law says that, while in the polling place, you can't advocate for or
against "any candidate, measure, or political party."
end of the story
wah wah wah they won't let us ignore the law. wah wah wah
So... Libtard, which political party uses the Gadsden flag? Republican?
Democrat? Independent? None of the above? What a tool you are!
You seem to define "useful idiot"!
you write "join the Tea Party" and also ask which party uses the Gadsen
Flag? it seems light did not break on Marblehead today.
and teabaggers are Republicans.
The Tea Party is not a political party... It endorses people who earn it. Peopel
who agree with our platform of smaller government, cutting taxes and less
spending. Currently it's mostly the Republican Party that supports that
agenda and so gets our support... But it's conditional... And they know it... If
people we help elect do not deliver... We will replace them at the next
election. Simple as that.

Ray

--
Open Letter to US Democrat Politicians:
http://youtu.be/TpYEK_kYgi4

Obama National Anthem
http://youtu.be/l46t_nrySg4

Join The Tea Party!
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill
Ray O'Hara
2010-10-22 18:20:32 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:18:53 -0400, "Ray O'Hara"
Post by Ray O'Hara
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:31:08 -0400, "Ray O'Hara"
Post by Ray O'Hara
Texas law says that, while in the polling place, you can't advocate
for
or
against "any candidate, measure, or political party."
end of the story
wah wah wah they won't let us ignore the law. wah wah wah
So... Libtard, which political party uses the Gadsden flag? Republican?
Democrat? Independent? None of the above? What a tool you are!
You seem to define "useful idiot"!
you write "join the Tea Party" and also ask which party uses the Gadsen
Flag? it seems light did not break on Marblehead today.
and teabaggers are Republicans.
The Tea Party is not a political party... It endorses people who earn it. Peopel
who agree with our platform of smaller government, cutting taxes and less
spending. Currently it's mostly the Republican Party that supports that
agenda and so gets our support... But it's conditional... And they know it... If
people we help elect do not deliver... We will replace them at the next
election. Simple as that.
Ray
yes it is a party. it has candidates and signs.
that's all it takes.
there isn't any official registration needed.
although it has become an arm of the Republican Party.
unknown
2010-10-26 16:29:46 UTC
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Post by Ray O'Hara
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:18:53 -0400, "Ray O'Hara"
Post by Ray O'Hara
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:31:08 -0400, "Ray O'Hara"
Post by Ray O'Hara
Texas law says that, while in the polling place, you can't advocate
for
or
against "any candidate, measure, or political party."
end of the story
wah wah wah they won't let us ignore the law. wah wah wah
So... Libtard, which political party uses the Gadsden flag? Republican?
Democrat? Independent? None of the above? What a tool you are!
You seem to define "useful idiot"!
you write "join the Tea Party" and also ask which party uses the Gadsen
Flag? it seems light did not break on Marblehead today.
and teabaggers are Republicans.
The Tea Party is not a political party... It endorses people who earn it. Peopel
who agree with our platform of smaller government, cutting taxes and less
spending. Currently it's mostly the Republican Party that supports that
agenda and so gets our support... But it's conditional... And they know it... If
people we help elect do not deliver... We will replace them at the next
election. Simple as that.
Ray
yes it is a party. it has candidates and signs.
that's all it takes.
there isn't any official registration needed.
although it has become an arm of the Republican Party.
It's not a party.. There isn't a single person running under the "TEA Party"
party in the coming election! Not a single ONE!

Ray

--
Open Letter to US Democrat Politicians:
http://youtu.be/TpYEK_kYgi4

Obama National Anthem
http://youtu.be/l46t_nrySg4

Join The Tea Party!
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill
Ray O'Hara
2010-10-26 20:06:33 UTC
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:20:32 -0400, "Ray O'Hara"
Post by Ray O'Hara
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:18:53 -0400, "Ray O'Hara"
Post by Ray O'Hara
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:31:08 -0400, "Ray O'Hara"
Post by Ray O'Hara
Texas law says that, while in the polling place, you can't advocate
for
or
against "any candidate, measure, or political party."
end of the story
wah wah wah they won't let us ignore the law. wah wah wah
So... Libtard, which political party uses the Gadsden flag?
Republican?
Democrat? Independent? None of the above? What a tool you are!
You seem to define "useful idiot"!
you write "join the Tea Party" and also ask which party uses the Gadsen
Flag? it seems light did not break on Marblehead today.
and teabaggers are Republicans.
The Tea Party is not a political party... It endorses people who earn
it.
Peopel
who agree with our platform of smaller government, cutting taxes and less
spending. Currently it's mostly the Republican Party that supports that
agenda and so gets our support... But it's conditional... And they know it... If
people we help elect do not deliver... We will replace them at the next
election. Simple as that.
Ray
yes it is a party. it has candidates and signs.
that's all it takes.
there isn't any official registration needed.
although it has become an arm of the Republican Party.
It's not a party.. There isn't a single person running under the "TEA Party"
party in the coming election! Not a single ONE!
Ray
it IS a party and Rand Paul. Christine the Witch and Sharon Angle are all
running as "tea partiers"
the teabaggery is a wing of the Rethuglican party and the shirt violated the
law as passed and enforced by CONNEDSERVATIVES"
Rick Perry the Teagger favorite is the Governor of Texas.


so if you have a complaint it is with the party you worship as no Dems or
Liberals are involved.
unknown
2010-10-28 13:30:05 UTC
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Post by Ray O'Hara
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:20:32 -0400, "Ray O'Hara"
Post by Ray O'Hara
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:18:53 -0400, "Ray O'Hara"
Post by Ray O'Hara
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:31:08 -0400, "Ray O'Hara"
Post by Ray O'Hara
Texas law says that, while in the polling place, you can't advocate
for
or
against "any candidate, measure, or political party."
end of the story
wah wah wah they won't let us ignore the law. wah wah wah
So... Libtard, which political party uses the Gadsden flag?
Republican?
Democrat? Independent? None of the above? What a tool you are!
You seem to define "useful idiot"!
you write "join the Tea Party" and also ask which party uses the Gadsen
Flag? it seems light did not break on Marblehead today.
and teabaggers are Republicans.
The Tea Party is not a political party... It endorses people who earn
it.
Peopel
who agree with our platform of smaller government, cutting taxes and less
spending. Currently it's mostly the Republican Party that supports that
agenda and so gets our support... But it's conditional... And they know it... If
people we help elect do not deliver... We will replace them at the next
election. Simple as that.
Ray
yes it is a party. it has candidates and signs.
that's all it takes.
there isn't any official registration needed.
although it has become an arm of the Republican Party.
It's not a party.. There isn't a single person running under the "TEA Party"
party in the coming election! Not a single ONE!
Ray
it IS a party and Rand Paul. Christine the Witch and Sharon Angle are all
running as "tea partiers"
If you stopped watching MSNBC for your "facts", you'd know that the Tea Party is
NOT a political party. It endorses politicians that it feels reflects the views
of the majority of the people involved in the Tea Party Movement.

Ray
--
Open Letter to US Democrat Politicians:
http://youtu.be/TpYEK_kYgi4

Obama National Anthem
http://youtu.be/l46t_nrySg4

Join The Tea Party!
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill
d***@aol.com
2010-10-21 16:01:30 UTC
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Texas law says that, while in the polling place, you can’t advocate for or
against “any candidate, measure, or political party.” Granted, anyone with a
“Don’t tread on me” button is probably a safe bet to be voting GOP this year —
the left doesn’t remember colonial history, after all — but one can’t make
assumptions. For instance, would it be fair to assume that a guy in a
hammer-and-sickle t-shirt will always and everywhere be voting Democrat?
Actually, maybe that’s a bad example.
    Katrina Pierson, who sits on the steering committee of the Dallas Tea Party
and is also involved with the Garland Tea Party, told The Daily Caller that
“around 11 o’clock yesterday,” a Garland Tea Party member, reported that she was
told by an election official that she could not vote unless she removed her
button. A second election official, Pierson said, did not recognize the button
and did not understand why the other official was not permitting the woman to
vote.
    According to Pierson, the woman refused to remove her button, saying it was
a violation of her first amendment rights, and called the sheriff’s office. The
sheriff passed the matter on to the Dallas County Election Department, which
failed to act.
    The woman opted not to vote until she had done more research and figured out
whether or not the election official was allowed to do that. The Garland Tea
Party is currently conducting that investigation on her behalf…
    Pierson says, “It’s not electioneering, it’s not a candidate, it’s not a
party affiliation.”
A question for the election lawyers out there: If a tea-party candidate ended up
on the ballot as an independent, would that change the calculus here? Would it
change if the tea party became an actual political party and nominated someone
but didn’t take the Gadsden flag as its official symbol? It’s unclear to me how
far electioneering law would allow assumptions about advocacy and voting
intentions to be drawn from symbols that aren’t formally linked to a party. If I
go down to the polls next month in a Reagan t-shirt, it’s pretty clear which way
I’m leaning — but is it so clear that polling officials could make me take it
off?
Actually, I think it’d be rip-roaring fun to suspend electioneering laws this
year if only in Nevada, just to see how far the Angle/Reid blood feud would go
with their supporters unleashed. Forget t-shirts and buttons; I’m picturing
nunchuks and brass knuckles emblazoned with the campaign logos. No survivors.
Yeah, that sure would be fun. Advocating violence always does to
someone hiding safely behind their keyboard.
unknown
2010-10-22 16:20:08 UTC
Permalink
Post by d***@aol.com
Post by unknown
Texas law says that, while in the polling place, you can’t advocate for or
against “any candidate, measure, or political party.” Granted, anyone with a
“Don’t tread on me” button is probably a safe bet to be voting GOP this year —
the left doesn’t remember colonial history, after all — but one can’t make
assumptions. For instance, would it be fair to assume that a guy in a
hammer-and-sickle t-shirt will always and everywhere be voting Democrat?
Actually, maybe that’s a bad example.
    Katrina Pierson, who sits on the steering committee of the Dallas Tea Party
and is also involved with the Garland Tea Party, told The Daily Caller that
“around 11 o’clock yesterday,” a Garland Tea Party member, reported that she was
told by an election official that she could not vote unless she removed her
button. A second election official, Pierson said, did not recognize the button
and did not understand why the other official was not permitting the woman to
vote.
    According to Pierson, the woman refused to remove her button, saying it was
a violation of her first amendment rights, and called the sheriff’s office. The
sheriff passed the matter on to the Dallas County Election Department, which
failed to act.
    The woman opted not to vote until she had done more research and figured out
whether or not the election official was allowed to do that. The Garland Tea
Party is currently conducting that investigation on her behalf…
    Pierson says, “It’s not electioneering, it’s not a candidate, it’s not a
party affiliation.”
A question for the election lawyers out there: If a tea-party candidate ended up
on the ballot as an independent, would that change the calculus here? Would it
change if the tea party became an actual political party and nominated someone
but didn’t take the Gadsden flag as its official symbol? It’s unclear to me how
far electioneering law would allow assumptions about advocacy and voting
intentions to be drawn from symbols that aren’t formally linked to a party. If I
go down to the polls next month in a Reagan t-shirt, it’s pretty clear which way
I’m leaning — but is it so clear that polling officials could make me take it
off?
Actually, I think it’d be rip-roaring fun to suspend electioneering laws this
year if only in Nevada, just to see how far the Angle/Reid blood feud would go
with their supporters unleashed. Forget t-shirts and buttons; I’m picturing
nunchuks and brass knuckles emblazoned with the campaign logos. No survivors.
Yeah, that sure would be fun. Advocating violence always does to
someone hiding safely behind their keyboard.
You should have noted that I did not write that passage. I quoted it and made
it clear that it was a such. I do not advocate violence and even signed a
non-violence pledge as part of... Well nevermind...

Ray
--
Open Letter to US Democrat Politicians:
http://youtu.be/TpYEK_kYgi4

Obama National Anthem
http://youtu.be/l46t_nrySg4

Join The Tea Party!
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill
d***@aol.com
2010-10-22 16:27:19 UTC
Permalink
Texas law says that, while in the polling place, you can’t advocate for or
against “any candidate, measure, or political party.” Granted, anyone with a
“Don’t tread on me” button is probably a safe bet to be voting GOP this year —
the left doesn’t remember colonial history, after all — but one can’t make
assumptions. For instance, would it be fair to assume that a guy in a
hammer-and-sickle t-shirt will always and everywhere be voting Democrat?
Actually, maybe that’s a bad example.
    Katrina Pierson, who sits on the steering committee of the Dallas Tea Party
and is also involved with the Garland Tea Party, told The Daily Caller that
“around 11 o’clock yesterday,” a Garland Tea Party member, reported that she was
told by an election official that she could not vote unless she removed her
button. A second election official, Pierson said, did not recognize the button
and did not understand why the other official was not permitting the woman to
vote.
    According to Pierson, the woman refused to remove her button, saying it was
a violation of her first amendment rights, and called the sheriff’s office. The
sheriff passed the matter on to the Dallas County Election Department, which
failed to act.
    The woman opted not to vote until she had done more research and figured out
whether or not the election official was allowed to do that. The Garland Tea
Party is currently conducting that investigation on her behalf…
    Pierson says, “It’s not electioneering, it’s not a candidate, it’s not a
party affiliation.”
A question for the election lawyers out there: If a tea-party candidate ended up
on the ballot as an independent, would that change the calculus here? Would it
change if the tea party became an actual political party and nominated someone
but didn’t take the Gadsden flag as its official symbol? It’s unclear to me how
far electioneering law would allow assumptions about advocacy and voting
intentions to be drawn from symbols that aren’t formally linked to a party. If I
go down to the polls next month in a Reagan t-shirt, it’s pretty clear which way
I’m leaning — but is it so clear that polling officials could make me take it
off?
Actually, I think it’d be rip-roaring fun to suspend electioneering laws this
year if only in Nevada, just to see how far the Angle/Reid blood feud would go
with their supporters unleashed. Forget t-shirts and buttons; I’m picturing
nunchuks and brass knuckles emblazoned with the campaign logos. No survivors.
   Yeah, that sure would be fun. Advocating violence always does to
someone hiding safely behind their keyboard.
You should have noted that I did not write that passage.  I quoted it and made
it clear that it was a such.  I do not advocate violence and even signed a
non-violence pledge as part of... Well nevermind...
Actually it wasn't clear where your quote ended and your
commentary began.
unknown
2010-10-22 16:34:50 UTC
Permalink
Post by d***@aol.com
Post by unknown
Texas law says that, while in the polling place, you can’t advocate for or
against “any candidate, measure, or political party.” Granted, anyone with a
“Don’t tread on me” button is probably a safe bet to be voting GOP this year —
the left doesn’t remember colonial history, after all — but one can’t make
assumptions. For instance, would it be fair to assume that a guy in a
hammer-and-sickle t-shirt will always and everywhere be voting Democrat?
Actually, maybe that’s a bad example.
    Katrina Pierson, who sits on the steering committee of the Dallas Tea Party
and is also involved with the Garland Tea Party, told The Daily Caller that
“around 11 o’clock yesterday,” a Garland Tea Party member, reported that she was
told by an election official that she could not vote unless she removed her
button. A second election official, Pierson said, did not recognize the button
and did not understand why the other official was not permitting the woman to
vote.
    According to Pierson, the woman refused to remove her button, saying it was
a violation of her first amendment rights, and called the sheriff’s office. The
sheriff passed the matter on to the Dallas County Election Department, which
failed to act.
    The woman opted not to vote until she had done more research and figured out
whether or not the election official was allowed to do that. The Garland Tea
Party is currently conducting that investigation on her behalf…
    Pierson says, “It’s not electioneering, it’s not a candidate, it’s not a
party affiliation.”
A question for the election lawyers out there: If a tea-party candidate ended up
on the ballot as an independent, would that change the calculus here? Would it
change if the tea party became an actual political party and nominated someone
but didn’t take the Gadsden flag as its official symbol? It’s unclear to me how
far electioneering law would allow assumptions about advocacy and voting
intentions to be drawn from symbols that aren’t formally linked to a party. If I
go down to the polls next month in a Reagan t-shirt, it’s pretty clear which way
I’m leaning — but is it so clear that polling officials could make me take it
off?
Actually, I think it’d be rip-roaring fun to suspend electioneering laws this
year if only in Nevada, just to see how far the Angle/Reid blood feud would go
with their supporters unleashed. Forget t-shirts and buttons; I’m picturing
nunchuks and brass knuckles emblazoned with the campaign logos. No survivors.
   Yeah, that sure would be fun. Advocating violence always does to
someone hiding safely behind their keyboard.
You should have noted that I did not write that passage.  I quoted it and made
it clear that it was a such.  I do not advocate violence and even signed a
non-violence pledge as part of... Well nevermind...
Actually it wasn't clear where your quote ended and your
commentary began.
No go.. It was clear... Here is the end of the article again as it appeared:

====
Actually, I think it’d be rip-roaring fun to suspend electioneering laws this
year if only in Nevada, just to see how far the Angle/Reid blood feud would go
with their supporters unleashed. Forget t-shirts and buttons; I’m picturing
nunchuks and brass knuckles emblazoned with the campaign logos. No survivors.

===
Source: http://tinyurl.com/26jhjga

Wolfie note: For those of you not familiar with the Gadsden Flag. It's the
often seen at Tea Parties, "Don't thread on me" flag with a coiled snake! It
was used as the USMC flag.

Learn more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_flag

You can see the image of the flag here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gadsden_flag.svg
====

Note the "===" and the "Wolfie note:" bit after I provided the source. I just
wanted to be clear on that... The original Message-ID:
<***@4ax.com>

Ray
--
Open Letter to US Democrat Politicians:
http://youtu.be/TpYEK_kYgi4

Obama National Anthem
http://youtu.be/l46t_nrySg4

Join The Tea Party!
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill
d***@aol.com
2010-10-22 17:42:00 UTC
Permalink
Texas law says that, while in the polling place, you can’t advocate for or
against “any candidate, measure, or political party.” Granted, anyone with a
“Don’t tread on me” button is probably a safe bet to be voting GOP this year —
the left doesn’t remember colonial history, after all — but one can’t make
assumptions. For instance, would it be fair to assume that a guy in a
hammer-and-sickle t-shirt will always and everywhere be voting Democrat?
Actually, maybe that’s a bad example.
    Katrina Pierson, who sits on the steering committee of the Dallas Tea Party
and is also involved with the Garland Tea Party, told The Daily Caller that
“around 11 o’clock yesterday,” a Garland Tea Party member, reported that she was
told by an election official that she could not vote unless she removed her
button. A second election official, Pierson said, did not recognize the button
and did not understand why the other official was not permitting the woman to
vote.
    According to Pierson, the woman refused to remove her button, saying it was
a violation of her first amendment rights, and called the sheriff’s office. The
sheriff passed the matter on to the Dallas County Election Department, which
failed to act.
    The woman opted not to vote until she had done more research and figured out
whether or not the election official was allowed to do that. The Garland Tea
Party is currently conducting that investigation on her behalf…
    Pierson says, “It’s not electioneering, it’s not a candidate, it’s not a
party affiliation.”
A question for the election lawyers out there: If a tea-party candidate ended up
on the ballot as an independent, would that change the calculus here? Would it
change if the tea party became an actual political party and nominated someone
but didn’t take the Gadsden flag as its official symbol? It’s unclear to me how
far electioneering law would allow assumptions about advocacy and voting
intentions to be drawn from symbols that aren’t formally linked to a party. If I
go down to the polls next month in a Reagan t-shirt, it’s pretty clear which way
I’m leaning — but is it so clear that polling officials could make me take it
off?
Actually, I think it’d be rip-roaring fun to suspend electioneering laws this
year if only in Nevada, just to see how far the Angle/Reid blood feud would go
with their supporters unleashed. Forget t-shirts and buttons; I’m picturing
nunchuks and brass knuckles emblazoned with the campaign logos. No survivors.
   Yeah, that sure would be fun. Advocating violence always does to
someone hiding safely behind their keyboard.
You should have noted that I did not write that passage.  I quoted it and made
it clear that it was a such.  I do not advocate violence and even signed a
non-violence pledge as part of... Well nevermind...
   Actually it wasn't clear where your quote ended and your
commentary began.
====
Actually, I think it’d be rip-roaring fun to suspend electioneering laws this
year if only in Nevada, just to see how far the Angle/Reid blood feud would go
with their supporters unleashed. Forget t-shirts and buttons; I’m picturing
nunchuks and brass knuckles emblazoned with the campaign logos. No survivors.
And how was I supposed to know whether this is from the article or
your own commentary? It's not clear from your post.....you didn't use
quotation marks, so the "I" in that paragraph could easily be you.
Ray O'Hara
2010-10-22 18:24:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by unknown
Post by d***@aol.com
Post by d***@aol.com
Post by unknown
Texas law says that, while in the polling place, you can’t advocate for or
against “any candidate, measure, or political party.” Granted, anyone with a
“Don’t tread on me” button is probably a safe bet to be voting GOP
this year —
the left doesn’t remember colonial history, after all — but one can’t make
assumptions. For instance, would it be fair to assume that a guy in a
hammer-and-sickle t-shirt will always and everywhere be voting Democrat?
Actually, maybe that’s a bad example.
Katrina Pierson, who sits on the steering committee of the Dallas Tea Party
and is also involved with the Garland Tea Party, told The Daily Caller that
“around 11 o’clock yesterday,” a Garland Tea Party member, reported
that she was
told by an election official that she could not vote unless she removed her
button. A second election official, Pierson said, did not recognize the button
and did not understand why the other official was not permitting the woman to
vote.
According to Pierson, the woman refused to remove her button, saying it was
a violation of her first amendment rights, and called the sheriff’s
office. The
sheriff passed the matter on to the Dallas County Election Department, which
failed to act.
The woman opted not to vote until she had done more research and figured out
whether or not the election official was allowed to do that. The Garland Tea
Party is currently conducting that investigation on her behalf…
Pierson says, “It’s not electioneering, it’s not a candidate, it’s not a
party affiliation.”
A question for the election lawyers out there: If a tea-party
candidate ended up
on the ballot as an independent, would that change the calculus here? Would it
change if the tea party became an actual political party and nominated someone
but didn’t take the Gadsden flag as its official symbol? It’s
unclear to me how
far electioneering law would allow assumptions about advocacy and voting
intentions to be drawn from symbols that aren’t formally linked to a
party. If I
go down to the polls next month in a Reagan t-shirt, it’s pretty
clear which way
I’m leaning — but is it so clear that polling officials could make me take it
off?
Actually, I think it’d be rip-roaring fun to suspend electioneering laws this
year if only in Nevada, just to see how far the Angle/Reid blood feud would go
with their supporters unleashed. Forget t-shirts and buttons; I’m picturing
nunchuks and brass knuckles emblazoned with the campaign logos. No survivors.
Yeah, that sure would be fun. Advocating violence always does to
someone hiding safely behind their keyboard.
You should have noted that I did not write that passage. I quoted it
and made
it clear that it was a such. I do not advocate violence and even signed
a
non-violence pledge as part of... Well nevermind...
Actually it wasn't clear where your quote ended and your
commentary began.
====
Actually, I think it’d be rip-roaring fun to suspend electioneering laws this
year if only in Nevada, just to see how far the Angle/Reid blood feud would go
with their supporters unleashed. Forget t-shirts and buttons; I’m picturing
nunchuks and brass knuckles emblazoned with the campaign logos. No survivors.
And how was I supposed to know whether this is from the article or
your own commentary? It's not clear from your post.....you didn't use
quotation marks, so the "I" in that paragraph could easily be you.


============================================================================


he still won't acknowledge that its his freedom loving conservatives that
have banned the t-shirt
conwaycaine
2010-10-22 20:25:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ray O'Hara
he still won't acknowledge that its his freedom loving conservatives that
have banned the t-shirt
Jeeze, Ray, when did they do that?
I've a closet full of T-shirts.
unknown
2010-10-22 21:58:18 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 16:25:57 -0400, "conwaycaine"
Post by conwaycaine
Post by Ray O'Hara
he still won't acknowledge that its his freedom loving conservatives that
have banned the t-shirt
Jeeze, Ray, when did they do that?
I've a closet full of T-shirts.
Male, conservative, middle of the road, white, cotton, under garment.
Name that tune.

max.it (the orange cage)
conwaycaine
2010-10-23 00:39:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by unknown
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 16:25:57 -0400, "conwaycaine"
Post by conwaycaine
Post by Ray O'Hara
he still won't acknowledge that its his freedom loving conservatives that
have banned the t-shirt
Jeeze, Ray, when did they do that?
I've a closet full of T-shirts.
Male, conservative, middle of the road, white, cotton, under garment.
Name that tune.
Well, the truth for to be told, I've seen Liberal, multicolored, women
wearing t-shirts.
Not too many with the Teaparty logo, I'll admit.
d***@aol.com
2010-10-23 01:52:31 UTC
Permalink
Post by conwaycaine
Post by unknown
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 16:25:57 -0400, "conwaycaine"
Post by conwaycaine
Post by Ray O'Hara
he still won't acknowledge that its his freedom loving conservatives that
have banned the t-shirt
Jeeze, Ray, when did they do that?
I've a closet full of T-shirts.
Male, conservative, middle of the road, white, cotton, under garment.
Name that tune.
Well, the truth for to be told, I've seen Liberal, multicolored, women
wearing t-shirts.
Not too many with the Teaparty logo, I'll admit.-
"multicolored"?
Fred J. McCall
2010-10-23 01:46:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by d***@aol.com
Post by conwaycaine
Well, the truth for to be told, I've seen Liberal, multicolored, women
wearing t-shirts.
Not too many with the Teaparty logo, I'll admit.-
"multicolored"?
I was going to ask him about that one. Were those women striped,
polka dotted, or something more creatively multicoloured than that?
--
"This philosophy of hate, of religious and racial intolerance,
with its passionate urge toward war, is loose in the world.
It is the enemy of democracy; it is the enemy of all the
fruitful and spiritual sides of life. It is our responsibility,
as individuals and organizations, to resist this."
-- Mary Heaton Vorse
conwaycaine
2010-10-23 14:30:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by d***@aol.com
Post by conwaycaine
Well, the truth for to be told, I've seen Liberal, multicolored, women
wearing t-shirts.
Not too many with the Teaparty logo, I'll admit.-
"multicolored"?
I was going to ask him about that one. Were those women striped,
polka dotted, or something more creatively multicoloured than that?
They were a fashionable lot.
No plaids or polka dots for them.
conwaycaine
2010-10-23 14:29:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by conwaycaine
Post by unknown
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 16:25:57 -0400, "conwaycaine"
Post by conwaycaine
Post by Ray O'Hara
he still won't acknowledge that its his freedom loving conservatives that
have banned the t-shirt
Jeeze, Ray, when did they do that?
I've a closet full of T-shirts.
Male, conservative, middle of the road, white, cotton, under garment.
Name that tune.
Well, the truth for to be told, I've seen Liberal, multicolored, women
wearing t-shirts.
Not too many with the Teaparty logo, I'll admit.-
"multicolored"?

**

Never heard of the Pied Piperette?
unknown
2010-10-23 19:56:11 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 20:39:18 -0400, "conwaycaine"
Post by conwaycaine
Post by unknown
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 16:25:57 -0400, "conwaycaine"
Post by conwaycaine
Post by Ray O'Hara
he still won't acknowledge that its his freedom loving conservatives that
have banned the t-shirt
Jeeze, Ray, when did they do that?
I've a closet full of T-shirts.
Male, conservative, middle of the road, white, cotton, under garment.
Name that tune.
Well, the truth for to be told, I've seen Liberal, multicolored, women
wearing t-shirts.
Not too many with the Teaparty logo, I'll admit.


max.it (the orange cage)
conwaycaine
2010-10-24 15:41:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by unknown
http://youtu.be/58mWAWxIclo
Gracious..........
Ray O'Hara
2010-10-23 23:12:48 UTC
Permalink
Post by conwaycaine
Post by Ray O'Hara
he still won't acknowledge that its his freedom loving conservatives that
have banned the t-shirt
Jeeze, Ray, when did they do that?
I've a closet full of T-shirts.
mr cornholeway.
did you read the post that started this thread?
conwaycaine
2010-10-24 15:43:48 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ray O'Hara
Post by conwaycaine
Post by Ray O'Hara
he still won't acknowledge that its his freedom loving conservatives
that have banned the t-shirt
Jeeze, Ray, when did they do that?
I've a closet full of T-shirts.
mr cornholeway.
did you read the post that started this thread?
Probably.
But enough about me.
Have you no sense of the ancient Irish practice of evasiveness and
misdirection?
unknown
2010-10-22 19:22:54 UTC
Permalink
Post by d***@aol.com
Post by unknown
Post by unknown
Texas law says that, while in the polling place, you can’t advocate for or
against “any candidate, measure, or political party.” Granted, anyone with a
“Don’t tread on me” button is probably a safe bet to be voting GOP this year —
the left doesn’t remember colonial history, after all — but one can’t make
assumptions. For instance, would it be fair to assume that a guy in a
hammer-and-sickle t-shirt will always and everywhere be voting Democrat?
Actually, maybe that’s a bad example.
    Katrina Pierson, who sits on the steering committee of the Dallas Tea Party
and is also involved with the Garland Tea Party, told The Daily Caller that
“around 11 o’clock yesterday,” a Garland Tea Party member, reported that she was
told by an election official that she could not vote unless she removed her
button. A second election official, Pierson said, did not recognize the button
and did not understand why the other official was not permitting the woman to
vote.
    According to Pierson, the woman refused to remove her button, saying it was
a violation of her first amendment rights, and called the sheriff’s office. The
sheriff passed the matter on to the Dallas County Election Department, which
failed to act.
    The woman opted not to vote until she had done more research and figured out
whether or not the election official was allowed to do that. The Garland Tea
Party is currently conducting that investigation on her behalf…
    Pierson says, “It’s not electioneering, it’s not a candidate, it’s not a
party affiliation.”
A question for the election lawyers out there: If a tea-party candidate ended up
on the ballot as an independent, would that change the calculus here? Would it
change if the tea party became an actual political party and nominated someone
but didn’t take the Gadsden flag as its official symbol? It’s unclear to me how
far electioneering law would allow assumptions about advocacy and voting
intentions to be drawn from symbols that aren’t formally linked to a party. If I
go down to the polls next month in a Reagan t-shirt, it’s pretty clear which way
I’m leaning — but is it so clear that polling officials could make me take it
off?
Actually, I think it’d be rip-roaring fun to suspend electioneering laws this
year if only in Nevada, just to see how far the Angle/Reid blood feud would go
with their supporters unleashed. Forget t-shirts and buttons; I’m picturing
nunchuks and brass knuckles emblazoned with the campaign logos. No survivors.
   Yeah, that sure would be fun. Advocating violence always does to
someone hiding safely behind their keyboard.
You should have noted that I did not write that passage.  I quoted it and made
it clear that it was a such.  I do not advocate violence and even signed a
non-violence pledge as part of... Well nevermind...
   Actually it wasn't clear where your quote ended and your
commentary began.
====
Actually, I think it’d be rip-roaring fun to suspend electioneering laws this
year if only in Nevada, just to see how far the Angle/Reid blood feud would go
with their supporters unleashed. Forget t-shirts and buttons; I’m picturing
nunchuks and brass knuckles emblazoned with the campaign logos. No survivors.
And how was I supposed to know whether this is from the article or
your own commentary? It's not clear from your post.....you didn't use
quotation marks, so the "I" in that paragraph could easily be you.
I explained it to you. If you have bad comprehension/reading skills that's on
you.

Ray
--
Open Letter to US Democrat Politicians:
http://youtu.be/TpYEK_kYgi4

Obama National Anthem
http://youtu.be/l46t_nrySg4

Join The Tea Party!
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill
d***@aol.com
2010-10-22 19:35:22 UTC
Permalink
Texas law says that, while in the polling place, you can’t advocate for or
against “any candidate, measure, or political party.” Granted, anyone with a
“Don’t tread on me” button is probably a safe bet to be voting GOP this year —
the left doesn’t remember colonial history, after all — but one can’t make
assumptions. For instance, would it be fair to assume that a guy in a
hammer-and-sickle t-shirt will always and everywhere be voting Democrat?
Actually, maybe that’s a bad example.
    Katrina Pierson, who sits on the steering committee of the Dallas Tea Party
and is also involved with the Garland Tea Party, told The Daily Caller that
“around 11 o’clock yesterday,” a Garland Tea Party member, reported that she was
told by an election official that she could not vote unless she removed her
button. A second election official, Pierson said, did not recognize the button
and did not understand why the other official was not permitting the woman to
vote.
    According to Pierson, the woman refused to remove her button, saying it was
a violation of her first amendment rights, and called the sheriff’s office. The
sheriff passed the matter on to the Dallas County Election Department, which
failed to act.
    The woman opted not to vote until she had done more research and figured out
whether or not the election official was allowed to do that. The Garland Tea
Party is currently conducting that investigation on her behalf…
    Pierson says, “It’s not electioneering, it’s not a candidate, it’s not a
party affiliation.”
A question for the election lawyers out there: If a tea-party candidate ended up
on the ballot as an independent, would that change the calculus here? Would it
change if the tea party became an actual political party and nominated someone
but didn’t take the Gadsden flag as its official symbol? It’s unclear to me how
far electioneering law would allow assumptions about advocacy and voting
intentions to be drawn from symbols that aren’t formally linked to a party. If I
go down to the polls next month in a Reagan t-shirt, it’s pretty clear which way
I’m leaning — but is it so clear that polling officials could make me take it
off?
Actually, I think it’d be rip-roaring fun to suspend electioneering laws this
year if only in Nevada, just to see how far the Angle/Reid blood feud would go
with their supporters unleashed. Forget t-shirts and buttons; I’m picturing
nunchuks and brass knuckles emblazoned with the campaign logos. No survivors.
   Yeah, that sure would be fun. Advocating violence always does to
someone hiding safely behind their keyboard.
You should have noted that I did not write that passage.  I quoted it and made
it clear that it was a such.  I do not advocate violence and even signed a
non-violence pledge as part of... Well nevermind...
   Actually it wasn't clear where your quote ended and your
commentary began.
====
Actually, I think it’d be rip-roaring fun to suspend electioneering laws this
year if only in Nevada, just to see how far the Angle/Reid blood feud would go
with their supporters unleashed. Forget t-shirts and buttons; I’m picturing
nunchuks and brass knuckles emblazoned with the campaign logos. No survivors.
   And how was I supposed to know whether this is from the article or
your own commentary? It's not clear from your post.....you didn't use
quotation marks, so the "I" in that paragraph could easily be you.
I explained it to you.  If you have bad comprehension/reading skills that's on
you.  
You said it was clear. It wasn't. Your posting skills need work.
unknown
2010-10-26 16:29:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by d***@aol.com
Post by unknown
Post by unknown
Texas law says that, while in the polling place, you can’t advocate for or
against “any candidate, measure, or political party.” Granted, anyone with a
“Don’t tread on me” button is probably a safe bet to be voting GOP this year —
the left doesn’t remember colonial history, after all — but one can’t make
assumptions. For instance, would it be fair to assume that a guy in a
hammer-and-sickle t-shirt will always and everywhere be voting Democrat?
Actually, maybe that’s a bad example.
    Katrina Pierson, who sits on the steering committee of the Dallas Tea Party
and is also involved with the Garland Tea Party, told The Daily Caller that
“around 11 o’clock yesterday,” a Garland Tea Party member, reported that she was
told by an election official that she could not vote unless she removed her
button. A second election official, Pierson said, did not recognize the button
and did not understand why the other official was not permitting the woman to
vote.
    According to Pierson, the woman refused to remove her button, saying it was
a violation of her first amendment rights, and called the sheriff’s office. The
sheriff passed the matter on to the Dallas County Election Department, which
failed to act.
    The woman opted not to vote until she had done more research and figured out
whether or not the election official was allowed to do that. The Garland Tea
Party is currently conducting that investigation on her behalf…
    Pierson says, “It’s not electioneering, it’s not a candidate, it’s not a
party affiliation.”
A question for the election lawyers out there: If a tea-party candidate ended up
on the ballot as an independent, would that change the calculus here? Would it
change if the tea party became an actual political party and nominated someone
but didn’t take the Gadsden flag as its official symbol? It’s unclear to me how
far electioneering law would allow assumptions about advocacy and voting
intentions to be drawn from symbols that aren’t formally linked to a party. If I
go down to the polls next month in a Reagan t-shirt, it’s pretty clear which way
I’m leaning — but is it so clear that polling officials could make me take it
off?
Actually, I think it’d be rip-roaring fun to suspend electioneering laws this
year if only in Nevada, just to see how far the Angle/Reid blood feud would go
with their supporters unleashed. Forget t-shirts and buttons; I’m picturing
nunchuks and brass knuckles emblazoned with the campaign logos. No survivors.
   Yeah, that sure would be fun. Advocating violence always does to
someone hiding safely behind their keyboard.
You should have noted that I did not write that passage.  I quoted it and made
it clear that it was a such.  I do not advocate violence and even signed a
non-violence pledge as part of... Well nevermind...
   Actually it wasn't clear where your quote ended and your
commentary began.
====
Actually, I think it’d be rip-roaring fun to suspend electioneering laws this
year if only in Nevada, just to see how far the Angle/Reid blood feud would go
with their supporters unleashed. Forget t-shirts and buttons; I’m picturing
nunchuks and brass knuckles emblazoned with the campaign logos. No survivors.
And how was I supposed to know whether this is from the article or
your own commentary? It's not clear from your post.....you didn't use
quotation marks, so the "I" in that paragraph could easily be you.
Read the whole damn thread and... hint... hint... Did you notice at all that
it's only YOU that can't understand... Take a nap! Then try again!

Ray
--
Open Letter to US Democrat Politicians:
http://youtu.be/TpYEK_kYgi4

Obama National Anthem
http://youtu.be/l46t_nrySg4

Join The Tea Party!
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill
Ray O'Hara
2010-10-22 18:23:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by d***@aol.com
Post by d***@aol.com
Texas law says that, while in the polling place, you can't advocate
for or
against "any candidate, measure, or political party." Granted, anyone
with a
"Don't tread on me" button is probably a safe bet to be voting GOP
this year -
the left doesn't remember colonial history, after all - but one can't
make
assumptions. For instance, would it be fair to assume that a guy in a
hammer-and-sickle t-shirt will always and everywhere be voting Democrat?
Actually, maybe that's a bad example.
Katrina Pierson, who sits on the steering committee of the Dallas Tea Party
and is also involved with the Garland Tea Party, told The Daily Caller that
"around 11 o'clock yesterday," a Garland Tea Party member, reported
that she was
told by an election official that she could not vote unless she removed her
button. A second election official, Pierson said, did not recognize the button
and did not understand why the other official was not permitting the woman to
vote.
According to Pierson, the woman refused to remove her button, saying it was
a violation of her first amendment rights, and called the sheriff's
office. The
sheriff passed the matter on to the Dallas County Election Department, which
failed to act.
The woman opted not to vote until she had done more research and figured out
whether or not the election official was allowed to do that. The Garland Tea
Party is currently conducting that investigation on her behalf.
Pierson says, "It's not electioneering, it's not a candidate, it's
not a
party affiliation."
A question for the election lawyers out there: If a tea-party candidate ended up
on the ballot as an independent, would that change the calculus here? Would it
change if the tea party became an actual political party and nominated someone
but didn't take the Gadsden flag as its official symbol? It's unclear
to me how
far electioneering law would allow assumptions about advocacy and voting
intentions to be drawn from symbols that aren't formally linked to a
party. If I
go down to the polls next month in a Reagan t-shirt, it's pretty
clear which way
I'm leaning - but is it so clear that polling officials could make me
take it
off?
Actually, I think it'd be rip-roaring fun to suspend electioneering
laws this
year if only in Nevada, just to see how far the Angle/Reid blood feud would go
with their supporters unleashed. Forget t-shirts and buttons; I'm
picturing
nunchuks and brass knuckles emblazoned with the campaign logos. No survivors.
Yeah, that sure would be fun. Advocating violence always does to
someone hiding safely behind their keyboard.
You should have noted that I did not write that passage. I quoted it and
made
it clear that it was a such. I do not advocate violence and even signed
a
non-violence pledge as part of... Well nevermind...
Actually it wasn't clear where your quote ended and your
commentary began.
====
Actually, I think it'd be rip-roaring fun to suspend electioneering laws
this
year if only in Nevada, just to see how far the Angle/Reid blood feud would go
with their supporters unleashed. Forget t-shirts and buttons; I'm
picturing
nunchuks and brass knuckles emblazoned with the campaign logos. No survivors.
===
Source: http://tinyurl.com/26jhjga
Wolfie note: For those of you not familiar with the Gadsden Flag. It's the
often seen at Tea Parties, "Don't thread on me" flag with a coiled snake!
It
was used as the USMC flag.
Learn more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_flag
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gadsden_flag.svg
====
Note the "===" and the "Wolfie note:" bit after I provided the source. I just
Ray
it was first used in the American Revolution and before the teabaggers
started using it
it was used by ultra-left revolutionaries in the 60s-70s.
now righwing extremists are using it.
conwaycaine
2010-10-22 20:30:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ray O'Hara
it was first used in the American Revolution and before the teabaggers
started using it
it was used by ultra-left revolutionaries in the 60s-70s.
now righwing extremists are using it.
I went to the Teaparty website Ray provided and found nothing right wing or
extreme in their agenda.
Other than the fact they seem to want to give Liberals the boot.
But then, some might consider that extreme.

The Teaparty folks seem to be much more Libertarian than destroyers of
Western Civilization.
And Libertarians, sir, are not Neocon knuckledraggers.
My knuckles are a good four feet off the ground.
Ray O'Hara
2010-10-23 23:15:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by conwaycaine
Post by Ray O'Hara
it was first used in the American Revolution and before the teabaggers
started using it
it was used by ultra-left revolutionaries in the 60s-70s.
now righwing extremists are using it.
I went to the Teaparty website Ray provided and found nothing right wing
or extreme in their agenda.
Other than the fact they seem to want to give Liberals the boot.
But then, some might consider that extreme.
The Teaparty folks seem to be much more Libertarian than destroyers of
Western Civilization.
And Libertarians, sir, are not Neocon knuckledraggers.
My knuckles are a good four feet off the ground.
many Germans thought hitler was reasonable.
you're in "good" company there.
d***@aol.com
2010-10-24 00:15:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by conwaycaine
Post by Ray O'Hara
it was first used in the American Revolution and before the teabaggers
started using it
it was used by ultra-left revolutionaries in the 60s-70s.
now righwing extremists are using it.
I went to the Teaparty website Ray provided and found nothing right wing
or extreme in their agenda.
Other than the fact they seem to want to give Liberals the boot.
But then, some might consider that extreme.
The Teaparty folks seem to be much more Libertarian than destroyers of
Western Civilization.
And Libertarians, sir, are not Neocon knuckledraggers.
My knuckles are a good four feet off the ground.
 many Germans thought hitler was reasonable.
you're in "good" company there.-
GODWIN!!!!!!!!
Ray O'Hara
2010-10-24 00:53:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ray O'Hara
Post by conwaycaine
Post by Ray O'Hara
it was first used in the American Revolution and before the teabaggers
started using it
it was used by ultra-left revolutionaries in the 60s-70s.
now righwing extremists are using it.
I went to the Teaparty website Ray provided and found nothing right wing
or extreme in their agenda.
Other than the fact they seem to want to give Liberals the boot.
But then, some might consider that extreme.
The Teaparty folks seem to be much more Libertarian than destroyers of
Western Civilization.
And Libertarians, sir, are not Neocon knuckledraggers.
My knuckles are a good four feet off the ground.
many Germans thought hitler was reasonable.
you're in "good" company there.-
GODWIN!!!!!!!!


====================================================

godwin is is an assholes attempt to censor discussion.
there were nazies, pretending there isn't only allows them to flourish
again.
so stick godwin up your ass. anybody who cites it loses as they can't defend
a point.
in other words Demmball. fuck off with you GODWIN!!!!.
THE POINT STANDS,
d***@aol.com
2010-10-24 01:27:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ray O'Hara
Post by conwaycaine
Post by Ray O'Hara
it was first used in the American Revolution and before the teabaggers
started using it
it was used by ultra-left revolutionaries in the 60s-70s.
now righwing extremists are using it.
I went to the Teaparty website Ray provided and found nothing right wing
or extreme in their agenda.
Other than the fact they seem to want to give Liberals the boot.
But then, some might consider that extreme.
The Teaparty folks seem to be much more Libertarian than destroyers of
Western Civilization.
And Libertarians, sir, are not Neocon knuckledraggers.
My knuckles are a good four feet off the ground.
many Germans thought hitler was reasonable.
you're in "good" company there.-
    GODWIN!!!!!!!!
====================================================
godwin is is an assholes attempt to censor discussion.
there were nazies, pretending there isn't only allows them to flourish
again.
so stick godwin up your ass. anybody who cites it loses as they can't defend
a point.
in other words Demmball. fuck off with you GODWIN!!!!.
THE POINT STANDS,-
yawn
Fred J. McCall
2010-10-24 01:14:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ray O'Hara
godwin is is an assholes attempt to censor discussion.
there were nazies, pretending there isn't only allows them to flourish
again.
so stick godwin up your ass. anybody who cites it loses as they can't defend
a point.
in other words Demmball. fuck off with you GODWIN!!!!.
THE POINT STANDS,
Not so much, no. I remember when he first came on the Net.

Anyone who is surprised at bad things happening in the world is living
in a fool's paradise.

Get out of the way and let us protect your dumb ass.
--
You have never lived until you have almost died.
Life has a special meaning that the protected
will never know.
conwaycaine
2010-10-24 15:45:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by d***@aol.com
Post by Ray O'Hara
many Germans thought hitler was reasonable.
you're in "good" company there.-
GODWIN!!!!!!!!
<Snipped>

Jeeze, Ray, that really popped a hot button!!
conwaycaine
2010-10-24 15:44:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ray O'Hara
Post by conwaycaine
The Teaparty folks seem to be much more Libertarian than destroyers of
Western Civilization.
And Libertarians, sir, are not Neocon knuckledraggers.
My knuckles are a good four feet off the ground.
many Germans thought hitler was reasonable.
you're in "good" company there.
Tell me, Mister O'Hara, do you really believe that anyone to the right of
you is a nazi??
Fred J. McCall
2010-10-24 16:12:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by conwaycaine
Post by Ray O'Hara
Post by conwaycaine
The Teaparty folks seem to be much more Libertarian than destroyers of
Western Civilization.
And Libertarians, sir, are not Neocon knuckledraggers.
My knuckles are a good four feet off the ground.
many Germans thought hitler was reasonable.
you're in "good" company there.
Tell me, Mister O'Hara, do you really believe that anyone to the right of
you is a nazi??
Well, most Maoists believe that...
--
"Oooo, scary! Y'know, there are a lot scarier things
in the world than you ... and I'm one of them."

-- Buffy the vampire
conwaycaine
2010-10-24 20:44:08 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by conwaycaine
Tell me, Mister O'Hara, do you really believe that anyone to the right of
you is a nazi??
Well, most Maoists believe that...
I doubt he's seen a single copy of the Little Red Book.
I think O'Hara is still in the afterglow of doing Whitewolf.
Which means he sees real and imagined Fascists under every bed.
Post traumatic stress syndrome, you know.
unknown
2010-10-26 16:35:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by conwaycaine
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by conwaycaine
Tell me, Mister O'Hara, do you really believe that anyone to the right of
you is a nazi??
Well, most Maoists believe that...
I doubt he's seen a single copy of the Little Red Book.
I think O'Hara is still in the afterglow of doing Whitewolf.
Which means he sees real and imagined Fascists under every bed.
Post traumatic stress syndrome, you know.
Please Conway don't tell me you think I see phantom socialists everywhere? I
post all sorts of links to news articles to back up my every assertion... I am
probable the one person who backs up his assertions with facts and links more
than anyone else... You wouldn't believe the amount of stuff I read... I only
select maybe 10% to post about because I think it might be good for a
discussion/chat... Despite the fact that every now and again someone moans
that I post OT... Almost every post I ever make leads to a discussion between
people... I see myself as a news bringer... That is why I ask "What say you?"
at the end of almost every post... I really DO want to know what people think...
I listen to voices on the left as well as the right... I take it all in and
determine what is truth for me... etc... I'm rambling now... You get it...

What say you? :-)

Ray
--
Open Letter to US Democrat Politicians:
http://youtu.be/TpYEK_kYgi4

Obama National Anthem
http://youtu.be/l46t_nrySg4

Join The Tea Party!
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill
conwaycaine
2010-10-26 23:38:17 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 16:44:08 -0400, "conwaycaine"
Post by conwaycaine
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by conwaycaine
Tell me, Mister O'Hara, do you really believe that anyone to the right of
you is a nazi??
Well, most Maoists believe that...
I doubt he's seen a single copy of the Little Red Book.
I think O'Hara is still in the afterglow of doing Whitewolf.
Which means he sees real and imagined Fascists under every bed.
Post traumatic stress syndrome, you know.
Please Conway don't tell me you think I see phantom socialists everywhere?
Not at all, Ray. It was O'Hara I was poking at.
He believes, as I've said before, that anyone to the right of him is
Fascist.

I
post all sorts of links to news articles to back up my every assertion... I am
probable the one person who backs up his assertions with facts and links more
than anyone else... You wouldn't believe the amount of stuff I read... I only
select maybe 10% to post about because I think it might be good for a
discussion/chat... Despite the fact that every now and again someone moans
that I post OT... Almost every post I ever make leads to a discussion between
people... I see myself as a news bringer... That is why I ask "What say you?"
at the end of almost every post... I really DO want to know what people think...
I listen to voices on the left as well as the right... I take it all in and
determine what is truth for me... etc... I'm rambling now... You get it...
unknown
2010-10-28 13:30:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by conwaycaine
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 16:44:08 -0400, "conwaycaine"
Post by conwaycaine
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by conwaycaine
Tell me, Mister O'Hara, do you really believe that anyone to the right of
you is a nazi??
Well, most Maoists believe that...
I doubt he's seen a single copy of the Little Red Book.
I think O'Hara is still in the afterglow of doing Whitewolf.
Which means he sees real and imagined Fascists under every bed.
Post traumatic stress syndrome, you know.
Please Conway don't tell me you think I see phantom socialists everywhere?
Not at all, Ray. It was O'Hara I was poking at.
He believes, as I've said before, that anyone to the right of him is
Fascist.
To be fair to him, he's only doing what Keith Olberman tells him to! :)

Ray
--
Open Letter to US Democrat Politicians:
http://youtu.be/TpYEK_kYgi4

Obama National Anthem
http://youtu.be/l46t_nrySg4

Join The Tea Party!
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill
conwaycaine
2010-10-28 16:49:30 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 19:38:17 -0400, "conwaycaine"
Post by conwaycaine
Post by unknown
Post by conwaycaine
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by conwaycaine
Tell me, Mister O'Hara, do you really believe that anyone to the right of
you is a nazi??
Well, most Maoists believe that...
I doubt he's seen a single copy of the Little Red Book.
I think O'Hara is still in the afterglow of doing Whitewolf.
Which means he sees real and imagined Fascists under every bed.
Post traumatic stress syndrome, you know.
Please Conway don't tell me you think I see phantom socialists everywhere?
Not at all, Ray. It was O'Hara I was poking at.
He believes, as I've said before, that anyone to the right of him is
Fascist.
To be fair to him, he's only doing what Keith Olberman tells him to! :)
I was intrigued by O'Hara's recent post that suggests any American opposed
to unrestrained illegal immigration is Racist.
As was recently pointed out, every nation on earth defends its borders by
putting in place some sort of immigration controls, even the EU.
(I'm sure that O'Hara's opinions are not based on the huge power base the
Dems are building by protecting , nay, encouraging illegals.)
unknown
2010-10-28 17:42:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by conwaycaine
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 19:38:17 -0400, "conwaycaine"
Post by conwaycaine
Post by unknown
Post by conwaycaine
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by conwaycaine
Tell me, Mister O'Hara, do you really believe that anyone to the right of
you is a nazi??
Well, most Maoists believe that...
I doubt he's seen a single copy of the Little Red Book.
I think O'Hara is still in the afterglow of doing Whitewolf.
Which means he sees real and imagined Fascists under every bed.
Post traumatic stress syndrome, you know.
Please Conway don't tell me you think I see phantom socialists everywhere?
Not at all, Ray. It was O'Hara I was poking at.
He believes, as I've said before, that anyone to the right of him is
Fascist.
To be fair to him, he's only doing what Keith Olberman tells him to! :)
I was intrigued by O'Hara's recent post that suggests any American opposed
to unrestrained illegal immigration is Racist.
As was recently pointed out, every nation on earth defends its borders by
putting in place some sort of immigration controls, even the EU.
(I'm sure that O'Hara's opinions are not based on the huge power base the
Dems are building by protecting , nay, encouraging illegals.)
The left are increasingly pathetic and paranoid. We see a day of sunshine for
the first time in 2 years on Nov 2nd and they see a terrible storm looming over
the horizon!

Ray

--
Open Letter to US Democrat Politicians:
http://youtu.be/TpYEK_kYgi4

Obama National Anthem
http://youtu.be/l46t_nrySg4

Join The Tea Party!
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill
conwaycaine
2010-10-29 15:12:12 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 12:49:30 -0400, "conwaycaine"
Post by conwaycaine
I was intrigued by O'Hara's recent post that suggests any American opposed
to unrestrained illegal immigration is Racist.
As was recently pointed out, every nation on earth defends its borders by
putting in place some sort of immigration controls, even the EU.
(I'm sure that O'Hara's opinions are not based on the huge power base the
Dems are building by protecting , nay, encouraging illegals.)
The left are increasingly pathetic and paranoid. We see a day of sunshine for
the first time in 2 years on Nov 2nd and they see a terrible storm looming over
the horizon!
I look for a host of dirty tricks as we near election day.
The Pubs are already hinting at rampant voter fraud in North Carolina.
The Dems are scrambling to lessen the impact of what's coming their way.
Are the Tea Parties projecting how many congressional seats they may win?
Betwixt me and thee, I think the time has come for a third party.
Dems and Pubs both have become far too complacent.
Neither seems really to care a flip for the wishes of their constituents.
d***@aol.com
2010-10-29 16:03:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by conwaycaine
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 12:49:30 -0400, "conwaycaine"
Post by conwaycaine
I was intrigued by O'Hara's recent post that suggests any American opposed
to unrestrained illegal immigration is Racist.
As was recently pointed out, every nation on earth defends its borders by
putting in place some sort of immigration controls, even the EU.
(I'm sure that O'Hara's opinions are not based on the huge power base the
Dems are building by protecting , nay, encouraging illegals.)
The left are increasingly pathetic and paranoid.    We see a day of
sunshine for
the first time in 2 years on Nov 2nd and they see a terrible storm looming over
the horizon!
I look for a host of dirty tricks as we near election day.
The Pubs are already hinting at rampant voter fraud in North Carolina.
The Dems are scrambling to lessen the impact of what's coming their way.
Are the Tea Parties projecting how many congressional seats they may win?
Betwixt me and thee, I think the time has come for a third party.
Dems and Pubs both have become far too complacent.
Neither seems really to care a flip for the wishes of their constituents.
For the most part, TPs are helping the GOP. The GOP may find
they have a tiger by the tail if the TP-backed candidates follow an
more independant course.

The one thing the GOP has had over the Dems (for the last 30-40
years...pretty much post-Watergate) is they've tended to be much more
cohesive. A larger % of Rep Congresscritters vote lock-step than their
Dem counterparts. I guess that's because the Dems tend to have a
broader constituency.

That being said, three parties have never worked for long under
our winner-take-all system. Historically, a viable third party has
either been absorbed by an existing party (which is what the GOP is
trying to do with the TPs) or has taken the place of a major party in
disarray (the last was when the GOP supplanted the Whigs during the
1850s) From the historical record, the GOP is more likely to absorb
the TPs....but you can never tell.

The true test of the strength of the TP movement will be when/if
they actually get some power. It's much easier to tap into
discontent....especially when the economy is in the toilet...than
actually have to lead.
Fred J. McCall
2010-10-29 18:21:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by d***@aol.com
Post by conwaycaine
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 12:49:30 -0400, "conwaycaine"
Post by conwaycaine
I was intrigued by O'Hara's recent post that suggests any American opposed
to unrestrained illegal immigration is Racist.
As was recently pointed out, every nation on earth defends its borders by
putting in place some sort of immigration controls, even the EU.
(I'm sure that O'Hara's opinions are not based on the huge power base the
Dems are building by protecting , nay, encouraging illegals.)
The left are increasingly pathetic and paranoid.    We see a day of
sunshine for
the first time in 2 years on Nov 2nd and they see a terrible storm looming over
the horizon!
I look for a host of dirty tricks as we near election day.
The Pubs are already hinting at rampant voter fraud in North Carolina.
The Dems are scrambling to lessen the impact of what's coming their way.
Are the Tea Parties projecting how many congressional seats they may win?
Betwixt me and thee, I think the time has come for a third party.
Dems and Pubs both have become far too complacent.
Neither seems really to care a flip for the wishes of their constituents.
For the most part, TPs are helping the GOP. The GOP may find
they have a tiger by the tail if the TP-backed candidates follow an
more independant course.
No. For the most part, TPs are HURTING the GOP. They've already cost
them the Senate (by getting candidates too extreme to win in the
general election nominated).
Post by d***@aol.com
The one thing the GOP has had over the Dems (for the last 30-40
years...pretty much post-Watergate) is they've tended to be much more
cohesive. A larger % of Rep Congresscritters vote lock-step than their
Dem counterparts. I guess that's because the Dems tend to have a
broader constituency.
Don't be silly.
--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
conwaycaine
2010-10-30 13:35:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by conwaycaine
I look for a host of dirty tricks as we near election day.
The Pubs are already hinting at rampant voter fraud in North Carolina.
The Dems are scrambling to lessen the impact of what's coming their way.
Are the Tea Parties projecting how many congressional seats they may win?
Betwixt me and thee, I think the time has come for a third party.
Dems and Pubs both have become far too complacent.
Neither seems really to care a flip for the wishes of their constituents.
For the most part, TPs are helping the GOP. The GOP may find
they have a tiger by the tail if the TP-backed candidates follow an
more independant course.

**Their stated agenda is to do just that.

The one thing the GOP has had over the Dems (for the last 30-40
years...pretty much post-Watergate) is they've tended to be much more
cohesive. A larger % of Rep Congresscritters vote lock-step than their
Dem counterparts. I guess that's because the Dems tend to have a
broader constituency.

***Both groups seem fairly united over the last few years.
Not nearly the crossing of party lines we once saw (or so it seems)
Perhaps because in Congress Liberal Republicans and Conservative Democrats
are hard to find these day.

That being said, three parties have never worked for long under
our winner-take-all system. Historically, a viable third party has
either been absorbed by an existing party (which is what the GOP is
trying to do with the TPs) or has taken the place of a major party in
disarray (the last was when the GOP supplanted the Whigs during the
1850s) From the historical record, the GOP is more likely to absorb
the TPs....but you can never tell.

The true test of the strength of the TP movement will be when/if
they actually get some power. It's much easier to tap into
discontent....especially when the economy is in the toilet...than
actually have to lead.
d***@aol.com
2010-10-30 13:52:25 UTC
Permalink
Post by conwaycaine
I look for a host of dirty tricks as we near election day.
The Pubs are already hinting at rampant voter fraud in North Carolina.
The Dems are scrambling to lessen the impact of what's coming their way.
Are the Tea Parties projecting how many congressional seats they may win?
Betwixt me and thee, I think the time has come for a third party.
Dems and Pubs both have become far too complacent.
Neither seems really to care a flip for the wishes of their constituents.
       For the most part, TPs are helping the GOP. The GOP may find
they have a tiger by the tail if the TP-backed candidates follow an
more independant course.
**Their stated agenda is to do just that.
      The one thing the GOP has had over the Dems (for the last 30-40
years...pretty much post-Watergate) is they've tended to be much more
cohesive. A larger % of Rep Congresscritters vote lock-step than their
Dem counterparts. I guess that's because the Dems tend to have a
broader constituency.
***Both groups seem fairly united over the last few years.
Not nearly the crossing of party lines we once saw (or so it seems)
True, but the Dems seem more likely to take their internal spats
onto the floor. Can you imagine a GOP Prez with the same majorities in
Congress not getting more of his agenda passed? I'm not saying Reps
don't fight among themselves, but they always seem to be more behind
the party line.

Earlier I stated Dems had a broader constituency....that's not
quite the right word...what I meant is Dems seem to have more
competing interest groups.
Perhaps because in Congress Liberal Republicans and Conservative Democrats
are hard to find these day.
I think that's a direct result of so many districts being slam-
dunks one way or the other. If a candidate's toughest opposition is in
the primaries, you'll tend to get more left-leaning Dems and right-
leaning Reps. That's why the Senate seems a bit more middle-of-the-
road than the House....for all the Red and Blue state labels, all
states are really varying shades of purple so more centrist(or at
least closer to the center) types tend to get elected.
     That being said, three parties have never worked for long
under
our winner-take-all system. Historically, a viable third party has
either been absorbed by an existing party (which is what the GOP is
trying to do with the TPs) or has taken the place of a major party in
disarray (the last was when the GOP supplanted the Whigs during the
1850s) From the historical record, the GOP is more likely to absorb
the TPs....but you can never tell.
    The true test of the strength of the TP movement will be when/if
they actually get some power. It's much easier to tap into
discontent....especially when the economy is in the toilet...than
actually have to lead.
Fred J. McCall
2010-10-30 18:52:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by d***@aol.com
Post by conwaycaine
I look for a host of dirty tricks as we near election day.
The Pubs are already hinting at rampant voter fraud in North Carolina.
The Dems are scrambling to lessen the impact of what's coming their way.
Are the Tea Parties projecting how many congressional seats they may win?
Betwixt me and thee, I think the time has come for a third party.
Dems and Pubs both have become far too complacent.
Neither seems really to care a flip for the wishes of their constituents.
       For the most part, TPs are helping the GOP. The GOP may find
they have a tiger by the tail if the TP-backed candidates follow an
more independant course.
**Their stated agenda is to do just that.
      The one thing the GOP has had over the Dems (for the last 30-40
years...pretty much post-Watergate) is they've tended to be much more
cohesive. A larger % of Rep Congresscritters vote lock-step than their
Dem counterparts. I guess that's because the Dems tend to have a
broader constituency.
***Both groups seem fairly united over the last few years.
Not nearly the crossing of party lines we once saw (or so it seems)
True, but the Dems seem more likely to take their internal spats
onto the floor. Can you imagine a GOP Prez with the same majorities in
Congress not getting more of his agenda passed? I'm not saying Reps
don't fight among themselves, but they always seem to be more behind
the party line.
That's only because they never seem to actually have the majorities
that the Democrats got this time around. When was the last time
Republicans got a 60 vote super majority in the Senate, for example?

Whichever party has a large majority is where you see more of the
'internal spats'. Part of it is gamesmanship; they let votes they
don't need vote against the party line for political purposes with
their constituency. Part of it is that you don't get big majorities
without electing some moderates and they're less likely to go along
with the National extremists.
Post by d***@aol.com
Earlier I stated Dems had a broader constituency....that's not
quite the right word...what I meant is Dems seem to have more
competing interest groups.
Not so much. Their interest groups do tend to be at several extremes,
though; blue collar unions vs teacher unions vs 'pity me' minorities.
Of course, the Republicans are divided between Wall Street, Main
Street, and religious loon, so it's the same number of factions.
--
"It's always different. It's always complex. But at some point,
somebody has to draw the line. And that somebody is always me....
I am the law."
-- Buffy, The Vampire Slayer
conwaycaine
2010-10-31 16:32:01 UTC
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<***@aol.com> wrote in message news:a7c2774f-86be-46b3-8162-***@v20g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 30, 9:35 am, "conwaycaine" <***@bellsouth.net> wrote:

Earlier I stated Dems had a broader constituency....that's not
quite the right word...what I meant is Dems seem to have more
competing interest groups.
Post by conwaycaine
Perhaps because in Congress Liberal Republicans and Conservative Democrats
are hard to find these day.
I think that's a direct result of so many districts being slam-
dunks one way or the other. If a candidate's toughest opposition is in
the primaries, you'll tend to get more left-leaning Dems and right-
leaning Reps. That's why the Senate seems a bit more middle-of-the-
road than the House....for all the Red and Blue state labels, all
states are really varying shades of purple so more centrist(or at
least closer to the center) types tend to get elected.

***

A real art form, the drawing of district lines.
Fred J. McCall
2010-10-29 18:17:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by conwaycaine
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 12:49:30 -0400, "conwaycaine"
Post by conwaycaine
I was intrigued by O'Hara's recent post that suggests any American opposed
to unrestrained illegal immigration is Racist.
As was recently pointed out, every nation on earth defends its borders by
putting in place some sort of immigration controls, even the EU.
(I'm sure that O'Hara's opinions are not based on the huge power base the
Dems are building by protecting , nay, encouraging illegals.)
The left are increasingly pathetic and paranoid. We see a day of sunshine for
the first time in 2 years on Nov 2nd and they see a terrible storm looming over
the horizon!
I look for a host of dirty tricks as we near election day.
The Pubs are already hinting at rampant voter fraud in North Carolina.
The Dems are scrambling to lessen the impact of what's coming their way.
Are the Tea Parties projecting how many congressional seats they may win?
Betwixt me and thee, I think the time has come for a third party.
Dems and Pubs both have become far too complacent.
Neither seems really to care a flip for the wishes of their constituents.
I agree it's time for a third (and a fourth) political party, but the
Tea Party isn't really any of them, although it would perhaps do the
Republican Party some good if all the right wing loons departed. Of
course, it would also do the Democratic Party some good if all the
Left Wing loons departed.
--
"May God have mercy upon my enemies; they will need it."
-- General George S Patton, Jr.
conwaycaine
2010-10-30 13:36:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by conwaycaine
Betwixt me and thee, I think the time has come for a third party.
Dems and Pubs both have become far too complacent.
Neither seems really to care a flip for the wishes of their constituents.
I agree it's time for a third (and a fourth) political party, but the
Tea Party isn't really any of them, although it would perhaps do the
Republican Party some good if all the right wing loons departed. Of
course, it would also do the Democratic Party some good if all the
Left Wing loons departed.
I wouldn't mind a house full of Moderates.
Might lessen the vituperation which passes for civil discourse these days.
La N
2010-10-30 03:29:35 UTC
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A Tea Party Patriot tries to explain how our freedoms are in jeopardy:


unknown
2010-11-01 16:29:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by conwaycaine
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 12:49:30 -0400, "conwaycaine"
Post by conwaycaine
I was intrigued by O'Hara's recent post that suggests any American opposed
to unrestrained illegal immigration is Racist.
As was recently pointed out, every nation on earth defends its borders by
putting in place some sort of immigration controls, even the EU.
(I'm sure that O'Hara's opinions are not based on the huge power base the
Dems are building by protecting , nay, encouraging illegals.)
The left are increasingly pathetic and paranoid. We see a day of sunshine for
the first time in 2 years on Nov 2nd and they see a terrible storm looming over
the horizon!
I look for a host of dirty tricks as we near election day.
The Pubs are already hinting at rampant voter fraud in North Carolina.
The Dems are scrambling to lessen the impact of what's coming their way.
Are the Tea Parties projecting how many congressional seats they may win?
Betwixt me and thee, I think the time has come for a third party.
Dems and Pubs both have become far too complacent.
Neither seems really to care a flip for the wishes of their constituents.
This is the calm before the storm... Just one day left!

Whereas for me:
Annie - Tomorrow - slightly changed.

The sun'll come out Tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow
There'll be sun!

Just thinkin' about Tomorrow
Clears away the cobwebs,
And the sorrow 'Til there's none!

When I'm stuck a day
That's gray, And lonely,
I just stick out my chin
And Grin, And Say,
Oh!

The sun'll come out Tomorrow
So ya gotta hang on 'Til tomorrow
Come what may!!

Tomorrow! Tomorrow!
I love ya Tomorrow!
You're ONLY

A day

A way!

And the Tea Party Express goes rolling along!

Ray
--
Open Letter to US Democrat Politicians:
http://youtu.be/TpYEK_kYgi4

Obama National Anthem
http://youtu.be/l46t_nrySg4

Join The Tea Party!
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill
Fred J. McCall
2010-11-01 16:15:48 UTC
Permalink
Post by unknown
Post by conwaycaine
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 12:49:30 -0400, "conwaycaine"
Post by conwaycaine
I was intrigued by O'Hara's recent post that suggests any American opposed
to unrestrained illegal immigration is Racist.
As was recently pointed out, every nation on earth defends its borders by
putting in place some sort of immigration controls, even the EU.
(I'm sure that O'Hara's opinions are not based on the huge power base the
Dems are building by protecting , nay, encouraging illegals.)
The left are increasingly pathetic and paranoid. We see a day of sunshine for
the first time in 2 years on Nov 2nd and they see a terrible storm looming over
the horizon!
I look for a host of dirty tricks as we near election day.
The Pubs are already hinting at rampant voter fraud in North Carolina.
The Dems are scrambling to lessen the impact of what's coming their way.
Are the Tea Parties projecting how many congressional seats they may win?
Betwixt me and thee, I think the time has come for a third party.
Dems and Pubs both have become far too complacent.
Neither seems really to care a flip for the wishes of their constituents.
This is the calm before the storm... Just one day left!
Annie - Tomorrow - slightly changed.
The sun'll come out Tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow
There'll be sun!
<snip tiresome idiocy>
Post by unknown
And the Tea Party Express goes rolling along!
There'd have been a lot more sun tomorrow if the Tea Party Express
hadn't gotten some folks nominated who simply can't win in the general
election. But for that the GOP might have taken the Senate tomorrow,
too. Not going to happen now, though.
--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
unknown
2010-11-01 18:43:25 UTC
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Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by unknown
Post by conwaycaine
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 12:49:30 -0400, "conwaycaine"
Post by conwaycaine
I was intrigued by O'Hara's recent post that suggests any American opposed
to unrestrained illegal immigration is Racist.
As was recently pointed out, every nation on earth defends its borders by
putting in place some sort of immigration controls, even the EU.
(I'm sure that O'Hara's opinions are not based on the huge power base the
Dems are building by protecting , nay, encouraging illegals.)
The left are increasingly pathetic and paranoid. We see a day of sunshine for
the first time in 2 years on Nov 2nd and they see a terrible storm looming over
the horizon!
I look for a host of dirty tricks as we near election day.
The Pubs are already hinting at rampant voter fraud in North Carolina.
The Dems are scrambling to lessen the impact of what's coming their way.
Are the Tea Parties projecting how many congressional seats they may win?
Betwixt me and thee, I think the time has come for a third party.
Dems and Pubs both have become far too complacent.
Neither seems really to care a flip for the wishes of their constituents.
This is the calm before the storm... Just one day left!
Annie - Tomorrow - slightly changed.
The sun'll come out Tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow
There'll be sun!
<snip tiresome idiocy>
Post by unknown
And the Tea Party Express goes rolling along!
There'd have been a lot more sun tomorrow if the Tea Party Express
hadn't gotten some folks nominated who simply can't win in the general
election. But for that the GOP might have taken the Senate tomorrow,
too. Not going to happen now, though.
Could still happen... It's a mighty tidal wave that's about to hit!

The Tea Party Express and Tea Party Patriots are the only force that can bring
about responsible change... YES WE CAN! AND WE WILL! RESTORE THIS COUNTRY!

Ray
--
Open Letter to US Democrat Politicians:
http://youtu.be/TpYEK_kYgi4

Obama National Anthem
http://youtu.be/l46t_nrySg4

Join The Tea Party!
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill
Fred J. McCall
2010-11-02 02:33:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by unknown
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by unknown
Post by conwaycaine
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 12:49:30 -0400, "conwaycaine"
Post by conwaycaine
I was intrigued by O'Hara's recent post that suggests any American opposed
to unrestrained illegal immigration is Racist.
As was recently pointed out, every nation on earth defends its borders by
putting in place some sort of immigration controls, even the EU.
(I'm sure that O'Hara's opinions are not based on the huge power base the
Dems are building by protecting , nay, encouraging illegals.)
The left are increasingly pathetic and paranoid. We see a day of sunshine for
the first time in 2 years on Nov 2nd and they see a terrible storm looming over
the horizon!
I look for a host of dirty tricks as we near election day.
The Pubs are already hinting at rampant voter fraud in North Carolina.
The Dems are scrambling to lessen the impact of what's coming their way.
Are the Tea Parties projecting how many congressional seats they may win?
Betwixt me and thee, I think the time has come for a third party.
Dems and Pubs both have become far too complacent.
Neither seems really to care a flip for the wishes of their constituents.
This is the calm before the storm... Just one day left!
Annie - Tomorrow - slightly changed.
The sun'll come out Tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow
There'll be sun!
<snip tiresome idiocy>
Post by unknown
And the Tea Party Express goes rolling along!
There'd have been a lot more sun tomorrow if the Tea Party Express
hadn't gotten some folks nominated who simply can't win in the general
election. But for that the GOP might have taken the Senate tomorrow,
too. Not going to happen now, though.
Could still happen... It's a mighty tidal wave that's about to hit!
You're kidding yourself. Anyone who believes that the GOP can still
take the Senate is delusional. Your "mighty tidal wave" will be low
turnouts and general disgust. If not for your Tea Parties the GOP
might have had a chance to do so, but not now. Too many unelectable
candidates.
Post by unknown
The Tea Party Express and Tea Party Patriots are the only force that can bring
about responsible change... YES WE CAN! AND WE WILL! RESTORE THIS COUNTRY!
Extremist fuckwits are why I'm making the deliberate decision, for the
first time in 38 years, to NOT vote. I don't want EITHER side to be
able to claim that they govern with my support and I refuse to vote
for someone who is going to go to Washington and I'll hate what they
do, PARTICULARLY if they keep all their promises.
--
"They made hypocrite judgments after the fact
But the name of the game is be hit and hit back."
-- "Boom Boom Mancini", Warren Zevon
Scotty
2010-11-02 07:09:25 UTC
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Post by Fred J. McCall
Extremist fuckwits are why I'm making the deliberate decision, for the
first time in 38 years, to NOT vote. I don't want EITHER side to be
able to claim that they govern with my support and I refuse to vote
for someone who is going to go to Washington and I'll hate what they
do, PARTICULARLY if they keep all their promises.
Heh, look where its got Obama...
You sound just like PJ O'Rourke, the rightwinger it's OK for lefties to
like. His new book, "Don't Vote", "It Just Encourages the Bastards." Sounds
like I need to find a copy...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/2010/oct/30/pj-orourke-john-harris-interview
unknown
2010-11-02 13:44:18 UTC
Permalink
Snip
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by unknown
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by unknown
And the Tea Party Express goes rolling along!
There'd have been a lot more sun tomorrow if the Tea Party Express
hadn't gotten some folks nominated who simply can't win in the general
election. But for that the GOP might have taken the Senate tomorrow,
too. Not going to happen now, though.
Could still happen... It's a mighty tidal wave that's about to hit!
You're kidding yourself. Anyone who believes that the GOP can still
take the Senate is delusional. Your "mighty tidal wave" will be low
turnouts and general disgust. If not for your Tea Parties the GOP
might have had a chance to do so, but not now. Too many unelectable
candidates.
Post by unknown
The Tea Party Express and Tea Party Patriots are the only force that can bring
about responsible change... YES WE CAN! AND WE WILL! RESTORE THIS COUNTRY!
Extremist fuckwits are why I'm making the deliberate decision, for the
first time in 38 years, to NOT vote. I don't want EITHER side to be
able to claim that they govern with my support and I refuse to vote
for someone who is going to go to Washington and I'll hate what they
do, PARTICULARLY if they keep all their promises.
Well, in that case I don't want to hear another word out of you complaining
about the state of the country or the political system or those in power...

Because you can't be arsed to vote... You lose the right to gripe and moan...
End of...

Ray
--
Open Letter to US Democrat Politicians:
http://youtu.be/TpYEK_kYgi4

Obama National Anthem
http://youtu.be/l46t_nrySg4

Join The Tea Party!
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill
Fred J. McCall
2010-11-02 14:43:24 UTC
Permalink
Post by unknown
Snip
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by unknown
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by unknown
And the Tea Party Express goes rolling along!
There'd have been a lot more sun tomorrow if the Tea Party Express
hadn't gotten some folks nominated who simply can't win in the general
election. But for that the GOP might have taken the Senate tomorrow,
too. Not going to happen now, though.
Could still happen... It's a mighty tidal wave that's about to hit!
You're kidding yourself. Anyone who believes that the GOP can still
take the Senate is delusional. Your "mighty tidal wave" will be low
turnouts and general disgust. If not for your Tea Parties the GOP
might have had a chance to do so, but not now. Too many unelectable
candidates.
Post by unknown
The Tea Party Express and Tea Party Patriots are the only force that can bring
about responsible change... YES WE CAN! AND WE WILL! RESTORE THIS COUNTRY!
Extremist fuckwits are why I'm making the deliberate decision, for the
first time in 38 years, to NOT vote. I don't want EITHER side to be
able to claim that they govern with my support and I refuse to vote
for someone who is going to go to Washington and I'll hate what they
do, PARTICULARLY if they keep all their promises.
Well, in that case I don't want to hear another word out of you complaining
about the state of the country or the political system or those in power...
Who gives a shite what you want?
Post by unknown
Because you can't be arsed to vote... You lose the right to gripe and moan...
End of...
Wrong, Ray. This is one of the stupider things you've said in a long
career of saying very stupid things. Just how is it that the fact
that the political system has offered me no one I want in office robs
me of the right to complain when one set of fuckwits or the other gets
the job?

It's voting that would rob me of that, since how could I complain when
whoever I voted for got the job and then proceeded to do just what
they've said they're going to do? I'm left with a choice between
Democrats who are ramming through things I don't want and Republicans
that are so far right I can't stand them. I don't want EITHER of
those proclaiming a 'mandate from the voters' and going off and doing
the sort of idiocy either one of them will do.

So just who should I vote for, Ray, given that I don't want EITHER
party doing what they claim they're going to do? If you want me to
vote so badly, give me a choice I can stomach. Until then, you can
just count me as another (generally) Republican voter lost because of
the Tea Party.
--
"Before you embark on a journey of revenge dig two graves."
-- Confucius
d***@aol.com
2010-11-02 15:17:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by unknown
Snip
Post by unknown
Post by Fred J. McCall
And the Tea Party Express goes rolling along!  
There'd have been a lot more sun tomorrow if the Tea Party Express
hadn't gotten some folks nominated who simply can't win in the general
election.  But for that the GOP might have taken the Senate tomorrow,
too.  Not going to happen now, though.
Could still happen... It's a mighty tidal wave that's about to hit!
You're kidding yourself.  Anyone who believes that the GOP can still
take the Senate is delusional.  Your "mighty tidal wave" will be low
turnouts and general disgust.  If not for your Tea Parties the GOP
might have had a chance to do so, but not now.  Too many unelectable
candidates.
Post by unknown
The Tea Party Express and Tea Party Patriots are the only force that can bring
about responsible change...  YES WE CAN!  AND WE WILL!  RESTORE THIS COUNTRY!
Extremist fuckwits are why I'm making the deliberate decision, for the
first time in 38 years, to NOT vote.  I don't want EITHER side to be
able to claim that they govern with my support and I refuse to vote
for someone who is going to go to Washington and I'll hate what they
do, PARTICULARLY if they keep all their promises.
Well, in that case I don't want to hear another word out of you complaining
about the state of the country or the political system or those in power...  
Who gives a shite what you want?
Post by unknown
Because you can't be arsed to vote... You lose the right to gripe and moan...
End of...
Wrong, Ray.  This is one of the stupider things you've said in a long
career of saying very stupid things.  Just how is it that the fact
that the political system has offered me no one I want in office robs
me of the right to complain when one set of fuckwits or the other gets
the job?
It's voting that would rob me of that, since how could I complain when
whoever I voted for got the job and then proceeded to do just what
they've said they're going to do?  I'm left with a choice between
Democrats who are ramming through things I don't want and Republicans
that are so far right I can't stand them.  I don't want EITHER of
those proclaiming a 'mandate from the voters' and going off and doing
the sort of idiocy either one of them will do.
So just who should I vote for, Ray, given that I don't want EITHER
party doing what they claim they're going to do?  If you want me to
vote so badly, give me a choice I can stomach.  Until then, you can
just count me as another (generally) Republican voter lost because of
the Tea Party.
Write-ins! (If they're allowed where you vote) Also, aren't there
any local races or issues on the ballot?
Fred J. McCall
2010-11-02 16:10:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by d***@aol.com
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by unknown
Snip
Post by unknown
Post by Fred J. McCall
And the Tea Party Express goes rolling along!  
There'd have been a lot more sun tomorrow if the Tea Party Express
hadn't gotten some folks nominated who simply can't win in the general
election.  But for that the GOP might have taken the Senate tomorrow,
too.  Not going to happen now, though.
Could still happen... It's a mighty tidal wave that's about to hit!
You're kidding yourself.  Anyone who believes that the GOP can still
take the Senate is delusional.  Your "mighty tidal wave" will be low
turnouts and general disgust.  If not for your Tea Parties the GOP
might have had a chance to do so, but not now.  Too many unelectable
candidates.
Post by unknown
The Tea Party Express and Tea Party Patriots are the only force that can bring
about responsible change...  YES WE CAN!  AND WE WILL!  RESTORE THIS COUNTRY!
Extremist fuckwits are why I'm making the deliberate decision, for the
first time in 38 years, to NOT vote.  I don't want EITHER side to be
able to claim that they govern with my support and I refuse to vote
for someone who is going to go to Washington and I'll hate what they
do, PARTICULARLY if they keep all their promises.
Well, in that case I don't want to hear another word out of you complaining
about the state of the country or the political system or those in power...  
Who gives a shite what you want?
Post by unknown
Because you can't be arsed to vote... You lose the right to gripe and moan...
End of...
Wrong, Ray.  This is one of the stupider things you've said in a long
career of saying very stupid things.  Just how is it that the fact
that the political system has offered me no one I want in office robs
me of the right to complain when one set of fuckwits or the other gets
the job?
It's voting that would rob me of that, since how could I complain when
whoever I voted for got the job and then proceeded to do just what
they've said they're going to do?  I'm left with a choice between
Democrats who are ramming through things I don't want and Republicans
that are so far right I can't stand them.  I don't want EITHER of
those proclaiming a 'mandate from the voters' and going off and doing
the sort of idiocy either one of them will do.
So just who should I vote for, Ray, given that I don't want EITHER
party doing what they claim they're going to do?  If you want me to
vote so badly, give me a choice I can stomach.  Until then, you can
just count me as another (generally) Republican voter lost because of
the Tea Party.
Write-ins! (If they're allowed where you vote) Also, aren't there
any local races or issues on the ballot?
This is how I view it. The freedoms we enjoy are based on three
boxes; the ballot box, the soap box, and the cartridge box.

The two major political parties have essentially taken away the ballot
box. Because of their control of the money and the political process,
once they are both out of touch (as they are now) there is no power
left in the ballot box.

Partisan sniping, insult, and denigration have pretty much eliminated
the soap box. When anyone who doesn't toe the line of one of the two
competing major parties gets shouted down, use of the soap box as a
control is pretty much gone.

I have the better part of a case of 9mm in the closet...
--
"Oooo, scary! Y'know, there are a lot scarier things
in the world than you ... and I'm one of them."

-- Buffy the vampire
unknown
2010-11-02 19:53:33 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 09:10:49 -0700, Fred J. McCall
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by d***@aol.com
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by unknown
Snip
Post by unknown
Post by Fred J. McCall
And the Tea Party Express goes rolling along!  
There'd have been a lot more sun tomorrow if the Tea Party Express
hadn't gotten some folks nominated who simply can't win in the general
election.  But for that the GOP might have taken the Senate tomorrow,
too.  Not going to happen now, though.
Could still happen... It's a mighty tidal wave that's about to hit!
You're kidding yourself.  Anyone who believes that the GOP can still
take the Senate is delusional.  Your "mighty tidal wave" will be low
turnouts and general disgust.  If not for your Tea Parties the GOP
might have had a chance to do so, but not now.  Too many unelectable
candidates.
Post by unknown
The Tea Party Express and Tea Party Patriots are the only force that can bring
about responsible change...  YES WE CAN!  AND WE WILL!  RESTORE THIS COUNTRY!
Extremist fuckwits are why I'm making the deliberate decision, for the
first time in 38 years, to NOT vote.  I don't want EITHER side to be
able to claim that they govern with my support and I refuse to vote
for someone who is going to go to Washington and I'll hate what they
do, PARTICULARLY if they keep all their promises.
Well, in that case I don't want to hear another word out of you complaining
about the state of the country or the political system or those in power...  
Who gives a shite what you want?
Post by unknown
Because you can't be arsed to vote... You lose the right to gripe and moan...
End of...
Wrong, Ray.  This is one of the stupider things you've said in a long
career of saying very stupid things.  Just how is it that the fact
that the political system has offered me no one I want in office robs
me of the right to complain when one set of fuckwits or the other gets
the job?
It's voting that would rob me of that, since how could I complain when
whoever I voted for got the job and then proceeded to do just what
they've said they're going to do?  I'm left with a choice between
Democrats who are ramming through things I don't want and Republicans
that are so far right I can't stand them.  I don't want EITHER of
those proclaiming a 'mandate from the voters' and going off and doing
the sort of idiocy either one of them will do.
So just who should I vote for, Ray, given that I don't want EITHER
party doing what they claim they're going to do?  If you want me to
vote so badly, give me a choice I can stomach.  Until then, you can
just count me as another (generally) Republican voter lost because of
the Tea Party.
Write-ins! (If they're allowed where you vote) Also, aren't there
any local races or issues on the ballot?
This is how I view it. The freedoms we enjoy are based on three
boxes; the ballot box, the soap box, and the cartridge box.
The two major political parties have essentially taken away the ballot
box. Because of their control of the money and the political process,
once they are both out of touch (as they are now) there is no power
left in the ballot box.
Partisan sniping, insult, and denigration have pretty much eliminated
the soap box. When anyone who doesn't toe the line of one of the two
competing major parties gets shouted down, use of the soap box as a
control is pretty much gone.
I have the better part of a case of 9mm in the closet...
--
"Oooo, scary! Y'know, there are a lot scarier things
in the world than you ... and I'm one of them."
-- Buffy the vampire
There is nobody to vote for. That's my sentiments exactly.
It doesn't matter who gets the big job. You still have to feed the
empty belly and have a warm place to shite.

I'd be in favour of an official registered abstainment on a ballot
paper. 'None of the above' catagory. Thousands of votes are discarded
because they are spoiled. Perhaps in simple protest by disgruntled
voters. Give them a place to put their X and count them. The
comparison in numbers with counted votes would be interesting to see.

max.it (the orange cage)
d***@aol.com
2010-11-02 20:21:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by unknown
On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 09:10:49 -0700, Fred J. McCall
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by unknown
Snip
Post by unknown
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by unknown
And the Tea Party Express goes rolling along!
There'd have been a lot more sun tomorrow if the Tea Party Express
hadn't gotten some folks nominated who simply can't win in the general
election. But for that the GOP might have taken the Senate tomorrow,
too. Not going to happen now, though.
Could still happen... It's a mighty tidal wave that's about to hit!
You're kidding yourself. Anyone who believes that the GOP can still
take the Senate is delusional. Your "mighty tidal wave" will be low
turnouts and general disgust. If not for your Tea Parties the GOP
might have had a chance to do so, but not now. Too many unelectable
candidates.
Post by unknown
The Tea Party Express and Tea Party Patriots are the only force that can bring
about responsible change... YES WE CAN! AND WE WILL! RESTORE THIS COUNTRY!
Extremist fuckwits are why I'm making the deliberate decision, for the
first time in 38 years, to NOT vote. I don't want EITHER side to be
able to claim that they govern with my support and I refuse to vote
for someone who is going to go to Washington and I'll hate what they
do, PARTICULARLY if they keep all their promises.
Well, in that case I don't want to hear another word out of you complaining
about the state of the country or the political system or those in power...
Who gives a shite what you want?
Post by unknown
Because you can't be arsed to vote... You lose the right to gripe and moan...
End of...
Wrong, Ray. This is one of the stupider things you've said in a long
career of saying very stupid things. Just how is it that the fact
that the political system has offered me no one I want in office robs
me of the right to complain when one set of fuckwits or the other gets
the job?
It's voting that would rob me of that, since how could I complain when
whoever I voted for got the job and then proceeded to do just what
they've said they're going to do? I'm left with a choice between
Democrats who are ramming through things I don't want and Republicans
that are so far right I can't stand them. I don't want EITHER of
those proclaiming a 'mandate from the voters' and going off and doing
the sort of idiocy either one of them will do.
So just who should I vote for, Ray, given that I don't want EITHER
party doing what they claim they're going to do? If you want me to
vote so badly, give me a choice I can stomach. Until then, you can
just count me as another (generally) Republican voter lost because of
the Tea Party.
    Write-ins! (If they're allowed where you vote) Also, aren't there
any local races or issues on the ballot?
This is how I view it.  The freedoms we enjoy are based on three
boxes; the ballot box, the soap box, and the cartridge box.  
The two major political parties have essentially taken away the ballot
box.  Because of their control of the money and the political process,
once they are both out of touch (as they are now) there is no power
left in the ballot box.
Partisan sniping, insult, and denigration have pretty much eliminated
the soap box.  When anyone who doesn't toe the line of one of the two
competing major parties gets shouted down, use of the soap box as a
control is pretty much gone.
I have the better part of a case of 9mm in the closet...
--
"Oooo, scary!  Y'know, there are a lot scarier things
in the world than you ... and I'm one of them."
                         -- Buffy the vampire
There is nobody to vote for. That's my sentiments exactly.
It doesn't matter who gets the big job. You still have to feed the
empty belly and have a warm place to shite.
I'd be in favour of an official registered abstainment on a ballot
paper. 'None of the above' catagory. Thousands of votes are discarded
because they are spoiled. Perhaps in simple protest by disgruntled
voters. Give them a place to put their X and count them. The
comparison in numbers with counted votes would be interesting to see.
My first response was "Never happen because those in power don't
want to see that." But, after a bit of thought, I realized those in
power don't give a shit what the common voter thinks.
unknown
2010-11-02 20:39:43 UTC
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Post by unknown
On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 09:10:49 -0700, Fred J. McCall
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by unknown
Snip
Post by unknown
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by unknown
And the Tea Party Express goes rolling along!
There'd have been a lot more sun tomorrow if the Tea Party Express
hadn't gotten some folks nominated who simply can't win in the general
election. But for that the GOP might have taken the Senate tomorrow,
too. Not going to happen now, though.
Could still happen... It's a mighty tidal wave that's about to hit!
You're kidding yourself. Anyone who believes that the GOP can still
take the Senate is delusional. Your "mighty tidal wave" will be low
turnouts and general disgust. If not for your Tea Parties the GOP
might have had a chance to do so, but not now. Too many unelectable
candidates.
Post by unknown
The Tea Party Express and Tea Party Patriots are the only force that can bring
about responsible change... YES WE CAN! AND WE WILL! RESTORE THIS COUNTRY!
Extremist fuckwits are why I'm making the deliberate decision, for the
first time in 38 years, to NOT vote. I don't want EITHER side to be
able to claim that they govern with my support and I refuse to vote
for someone who is going to go to Washington and I'll hate what they
do, PARTICULARLY if they keep all their promises.
Well, in that case I don't want to hear another word out of you complaining
about the state of the country or the political system or those in power...
Who gives a shite what you want?
Post by unknown
Because you can't be arsed to vote... You lose the right to gripe and moan...
End of...
Wrong, Ray. This is one of the stupider things you've said in a long
career of saying very stupid things. Just how is it that the fact
that the political system has offered me no one I want in office robs
me of the right to complain when one set of fuckwits or the other gets
the job?
It's voting that would rob me of that, since how could I complain when
whoever I voted for got the job and then proceeded to do just what
they've said they're going to do? I'm left with a choice between
Democrats who are ramming through things I don't want and Republicans
that are so far right I can't stand them. I don't want EITHER of
those proclaiming a 'mandate from the voters' and going off and doing
the sort of idiocy either one of them will do.
So just who should I vote for, Ray, given that I don't want EITHER
party doing what they claim they're going to do? If you want me to
vote so badly, give me a choice I can stomach. Until then, you can
just count me as another (generally) Republican voter lost because of
the Tea Party.
    Write-ins! (If they're allowed where you vote) Also, aren't there
any local races or issues on the ballot?
This is how I view it.  The freedoms we enjoy are based on three
boxes; the ballot box, the soap box, and the cartridge box.  
The two major political parties have essentially taken away the ballot
box.  Because of their control of the money and the political process,
once they are both out of touch (as they are now) there is no power
left in the ballot box.
Partisan sniping, insult, and denigration have pretty much eliminated
the soap box.  When anyone who doesn't toe the line of one of the two
competing major parties gets shouted down, use of the soap box as a
control is pretty much gone.
I have the better part of a case of 9mm in the closet...
--
"Oooo, scary!  Y'know, there are a lot scarier things
in the world than you ... and I'm one of them."
                         -- Buffy the vampire
There is nobody to vote for. That's my sentiments exactly.
It doesn't matter who gets the big job. You still have to feed the
empty belly and have a warm place to shite.
I'd be in favour of an official registered abstainment on a ballot
paper. 'None of the above' catagory. Thousands of votes are discarded
because they are spoiled. Perhaps in simple protest by disgruntled
voters. Give them a place to put their X and count them. The
comparison in numbers with counted votes would be interesting to see.
My first response was "Never happen because those in power don't
want to see that." But, after a bit of thought, I realized those in
power don't give a shit what the common voter thinks.
That's why those that CAN vote MUST vote! Fred, obviously is too lazy and dull
to vote... But we'll probably never hear the end of his whining about the
result... Typical RINO... But luckily they are on the endangered list... and
by the next election... We (Tea Party Activists) hope to see them on the
"extinct list" The Party Purity Test will see to that!

Ray
--
Open Letter to US Democrat Politicians:
http://youtu.be/TpYEK_kYgi4

Obama National Anthem
http://youtu.be/l46t_nrySg4

Join The Tea Party!
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill
d***@aol.com
2010-11-02 20:55:51 UTC
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On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 09:10:49 -0700, Fred J. McCall
Post by d***@aol.com
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by unknown
Snip
Post by unknown
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by unknown
And the Tea Party Express goes rolling along!
There'd have been a lot more sun tomorrow if the Tea Party Express
hadn't gotten some folks nominated who simply can't win in the general
election. But for that the GOP might have taken the Senate tomorrow,
too. Not going to happen now, though.
Could still happen... It's a mighty tidal wave that's about to hit!
You're kidding yourself. Anyone who believes that the GOP can still
take the Senate is delusional. Your "mighty tidal wave" will be low
turnouts and general disgust. If not for your Tea Parties the GOP
might have had a chance to do so, but not now. Too many unelectable
candidates.
Post by unknown
The Tea Party Express and Tea Party Patriots are the only force that can bring
about responsible change... YES WE CAN! AND WE WILL! RESTORE THIS COUNTRY!
Extremist fuckwits are why I'm making the deliberate decision, for the
first time in 38 years, to NOT vote. I don't want EITHER side to be
able to claim that they govern with my support and I refuse to vote
for someone who is going to go to Washington and I'll hate what they
do, PARTICULARLY if they keep all their promises.
Well, in that case I don't want to hear another word out of you complaining
about the state of the country or the political system or those in power...
Who gives a shite what you want?
Post by unknown
Because you can't be arsed to vote... You lose the right to gripe and moan...
End of...
Wrong, Ray. This is one of the stupider things you've said in a long
career of saying very stupid things. Just how is it that the fact
that the political system has offered me no one I want in office robs
me of the right to complain when one set of fuckwits or the other gets
the job?
It's voting that would rob me of that, since how could I complain when
whoever I voted for got the job and then proceeded to do just what
they've said they're going to do? I'm left with a choice between
Democrats who are ramming through things I don't want and Republicans
that are so far right I can't stand them. I don't want EITHER of
those proclaiming a 'mandate from the voters' and going off and doing
the sort of idiocy either one of them will do.
So just who should I vote for, Ray, given that I don't want EITHER
party doing what they claim they're going to do? If you want me to
vote so badly, give me a choice I can stomach. Until then, you can
just count me as another (generally) Republican voter lost because of
the Tea Party.
Write-ins! (If they're allowed where you vote) Also, aren't there
any local races or issues on the ballot?
This is how I view it. The freedoms we enjoy are based on three
boxes; the ballot box, the soap box, and the cartridge box.
The two major political parties have essentially taken away the ballot
box. Because of their control of the money and the political process,
once they are both out of touch (as they are now) there is no power
left in the ballot box.
Partisan sniping, insult, and denigration have pretty much eliminated
the soap box. When anyone who doesn't toe the line of one of the two
competing major parties gets shouted down, use of the soap box as a
control is pretty much gone.
I have the better part of a case of 9mm in the closet...
--
"Oooo, scary! Y'know, there are a lot scarier things
in the world than you ... and I'm one of them."
-- Buffy the vampire
There is nobody to vote for. That's my sentiments exactly.
It doesn't matter who gets the big job. You still have to feed the
empty belly and have a warm place to shite.
I'd be in favour of an official registered abstainment on a ballot
paper. 'None of the above' catagory. Thousands of votes are discarded
because they are spoiled. Perhaps in simple protest by disgruntled
voters. Give them a place to put their X and count them. The
comparison in numbers with counted votes would be interesting to see.
     My first response was "Never happen because those in power don't
want to see that." But, after a bit of thought, I realized those in
power don't give a shit what the common voter thinks.
That's why those that CAN vote MUST vote!  Fred, obviously is too lazy and dull
to vote...  But we'll probably never hear the end of his whining about the
result...  Typical RINO...  But luckily they are on the endangered list... and
by the next election... We (Tea Party Activists) hope to see them on the
"extinct list"    The Party Purity Test will see to that!
Maybe we could get this guy....

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20101102/EU.Italy.Berlusconi/
Fred J. McCall
2010-11-03 00:54:16 UTC
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Post by unknown
That's why those that CAN vote MUST vote! Fred, obviously is too lazy and dull
to vote... But we'll probably never hear the end of his whining about the
result... Typical RINO... But luckily they are on the endangered list... and
by the next election... We (Tea Party Activists) hope to see them on the
"extinct list" The Party Purity Test will see to that!
You and the Stalinists, Ray. People like you are why I'm not voting.
When it's a choice between someone like you and someone like Pelosi, I
vote No Contest. Given that choice, nobody sane would vote.
--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
only stupid."
-- Heinrich Heine
unknown
2010-11-05 15:14:14 UTC
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Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by unknown
That's why those that CAN vote MUST vote! Fred, obviously is too lazy and dull
to vote... But we'll probably never hear the end of his whining about the
result... Typical RINO... But luckily they are on the endangered list... and
by the next election... We (Tea Party Activists) hope to see them on the
"extinct list" The Party Purity Test will see to that!
You and the Stalinists, Ray. People like you are why I'm not voting.
When it's a choice between someone like you and someone like Pelosi, I
vote No Contest. Given that choice, nobody sane would vote.
So all the people who bothered to vote are insane by your logic... Are you sure
your not a closet Progressive?

Ray
--
Glenn Beck Celebrates 2010 election!
http://youtu.be/GYPqv99l7rw

Obama National Anthem
http://youtu.be/l46t_nrySg4

Join The Tea Party!
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill
Fred J. McCall
2010-11-05 15:39:42 UTC
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Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by unknown
That's why those that CAN vote MUST vote! Fred, obviously is too lazy and dull
to vote... But we'll probably never hear the end of his whining about the
result... Typical RINO... But luckily they are on the endangered list... and
by the next election... We (Tea Party Activists) hope to see them on the
"extinct list" The Party Purity Test will see to that!
You and the Stalinists, Ray. People like you are why I'm not voting.
When it's a choice between someone like you and someone like Pelosi, I
vote No Contest. Given that choice, nobody sane would vote.
So all the people who bothered to vote are insane by your logic...
They are if they expect some different outcome. I don't want what
EITHER side is proclaiming as their goals. So just who do you suggest
a person should vote for in that case, Ray?
Post by unknown
Are you sure your not a closet Progressive?
Are you sure you're not a closet orangutan?
--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
only stupid."
-- Heinrich Heine
unknown
2010-11-05 16:28:33 UTC
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Post by unknown
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by unknown
That's why those that CAN vote MUST vote! Fred, obviously is too lazy and dull
to vote... But we'll probably never hear the end of his whining about the
result... Typical RINO... But luckily they are on the endangered list... and
by the next election... We (Tea Party Activists) hope to see them on the
"extinct list" The Party Purity Test will see to that!
You and the Stalinists, Ray. People like you are why I'm not voting.
When it's a choice between someone like you and someone like Pelosi, I
vote No Contest. Given that choice, nobody sane would vote.
So all the people who bothered to vote are insane by your logic...
They are if they expect some different outcome.
Yes folks, everyone in the world is a moron... except superbrain Fred... However
do you keep your ego inside your body?

Ray
--
Glenn Beck Celebrates 2010 election!
http://youtu.be/GYPqv99l7rw

Obama National Anthem
http://youtu.be/l46t_nrySg4

Join The Tea Party!
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill
Fred J. McCall
2010-11-06 01:38:08 UTC
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Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by unknown
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by unknown
That's why those that CAN vote MUST vote! Fred, obviously is too lazy and dull
to vote... But we'll probably never hear the end of his whining about the
result... Typical RINO... But luckily they are on the endangered list... and
by the next election... We (Tea Party Activists) hope to see them on the
"extinct list" The Party Purity Test will see to that!
You and the Stalinists, Ray. People like you are why I'm not voting.
When it's a choice between someone like you and someone like Pelosi, I
vote No Contest. Given that choice, nobody sane would vote.
So all the people who bothered to vote are insane by your logic...
They are if they expect some different outcome.
Yes folks, everyone in the world is a moron... except superbrain Fred... However
do you keep your ego inside your body?
Hint: "Insane" and "a moron" are not the same things. They're not
even related. Well, except perhaps in your case...
--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
Fred J. McCall
2010-11-03 00:12:18 UTC
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Post by d***@aol.com
Post by unknown
There is nobody to vote for. That's my sentiments exactly.
It doesn't matter who gets the big job. You still have to feed the
empty belly and have a warm place to shite.
I'd be in favour of an official registered abstainment on a ballot
paper. 'None of the above' catagory. Thousands of votes are discarded
because they are spoiled. Perhaps in simple protest by disgruntled
voters. Give them a place to put their X and count them. The
comparison in numbers with counted votes would be interesting to see.
My first response was "Never happen because those in power don't
want to see that." But, after a bit of thought, I realized those in
power don't give a shit what the common voter thinks.
It's already happened in Nevada, which has just such an option. Any
other state could enact the same thing.
--
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore,
all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
--George Bernard Shaw
Jane Margaret Laight
2010-11-03 00:57:54 UTC
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Post by unknown
Snip
Post by unknown
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by unknown
And the Tea Party Express goes rolling along!
There'd have been a lot more sun tomorrow if the Tea Party Express
hadn't gotten some folks nominated who simply can't win in the general
election. But for that the GOP might have taken the Senate tomorrow,
too. Not going to happen now, though.
Could still happen... It's a mighty tidal wave that's about to hit!
You're kidding yourself. Anyone who believes that the GOP can still
take the Senate is delusional. Your "mighty tidal wave" will be low
turnouts and general disgust. If not for your Tea Parties the GOP
might have had a chance to do so, but not now. Too many unelectable
candidates.
Post by unknown
The Tea Party Express and Tea Party Patriots are the only force that can bring
about responsible change... YES WE CAN! AND WE WILL! RESTORE THIS COUNTRY!
Extremist fuckwits are why I'm making the deliberate decision, for the
first time in 38 years, to NOT vote. I don't want EITHER side to be
able to claim that they govern with my support and I refuse to vote
for someone who is going to go to Washington and I'll hate what they
do, PARTICULARLY if they keep all their promises.
Well, in that case I don't want to hear another word out of you complaining
about the state of the country or the political system or those in power...
Who gives a shite what you want?
Post by unknown
Because you can't be arsed to vote... You lose the right to gripe and moan...
End of...
Wrong, Ray. This is one of the stupider things you've said in a long
career of saying very stupid things. Just how is it that the fact
that the political system has offered me no one I want in office robs
me of the right to complain when one set of fuckwits or the other gets
the job?
It's voting that would rob me of that, since how could I complain when
whoever I voted for got the job and then proceeded to do just what
they've said they're going to do? I'm left with a choice between
Democrats who are ramming through things I don't want and Republicans
that are so far right I can't stand them. I don't want EITHER of
those proclaiming a 'mandate from the voters' and going off and doing
the sort of idiocy either one of them will do.
So just who should I vote for, Ray, given that I don't want EITHER
party doing what they claim they're going to do? If you want me to
vote so badly, give me a choice I can stomach. Until then, you can
just count me as another (generally) Republican voter lost because of
the Tea Party.
    Write-ins! (If they're allowed where you vote) Also, aren't there
any local races or issues on the ballot?
This is how I view it.  The freedoms we enjoy are based on three
boxes; the ballot box, the soap box, and the cartridge box.  
The two major political parties have essentially taken away the ballot
box.  Because of their control of the money and the political process,
once they are both out of touch (as they are now) there is no power
left in the ballot box.
Partisan sniping, insult, and denigration have pretty much eliminated
the soap box.  When anyone who doesn't toe the line of one of the two
competing major parties gets shouted down, use of the soap box as a
control is pretty much gone.
I have the better part of a case of 9mm in the closet...
--
"Oooo, scary!  Y'know, there are a lot scarier things
 in the world than you ... and I'm one of them."
                          -- Buffy the vampire- Hide quoted text -
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that's all right, Fred.

I am presently domiciled in the state of Maryland, but since I am away
from home, I filed absentee some time ago.

Maybe next time, while voting early, I'll also vote often (maybe I
should move to Chicago!), so they won't miss your vote.

Seriously, you aren't the only person who has decided not to vote
because of the dearth of viable candidates or the lack of issues worth
your time. I suspect that once the political parties (Repubs,
particularly) realize that a number of their current candidates
couldn't draw flies because of their extreme political beliefs, they
may start trying to find candidates that may have a legitimate chance
to win.

JML
never mind who I voted for
Fred J. McCall
2010-11-03 01:51:41 UTC
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Post by Jane Margaret Laight
Seriously, you aren't the only person who has decided not to vote
because of the dearth of viable candidates or the lack of issues worth
your time. I suspect that once the political parties (Repubs,
particularly) realize that a number of their current candidates
couldn't draw flies because of their extreme political beliefs, they
may start trying to find candidates that may have a legitimate chance
to win.
The next two years are going to be even worse. Most of the folks
getting knocked off are going to be moderate Democrats. The
extremists are usually in 'safe' districts (like Pelosi in San
Francisco). Meanwhile, those moderate Democrats are being replaced by
extremist conservatives like Ray.

This is the best thing that could have happened for Obama. Now he can
blame the obstructionists in the House when things don't get better.
Before he could only blame his own Party. Losing the House takes
Pelosi out of the limelight, so the Republicans won't be able to play
'Newt Gingerich' with her in 2012. Anything he REALLY doesn't want
the Senate can block and he doesn't have to veto anything, so his
hands look clean.

I keep hoping the Republican Party will wake up and realize that it
takes moderates to win, but I've pretty much given up on that. I
think they'll run an extremist for President (because of the outcome
this year in the House, forgetting that nominating extremists cost
them their chance at the Senate) and Obama will walk to another 4
years. The House will swing at least partly back towards the Dems, if
they don't regain control entirely.

Me, I think the smart thing to do is buy ammunition...
--
"Speed and Violence. Death and Destruction.
Someone's gonna die. We decide who."
--VWF 11 Targeting
Jane Margaret Laight
2010-11-03 23:55:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jane Margaret Laight
Seriously, you aren't the only person who has decided not to vote
because of the dearth of viable candidates or the lack of issues worth
your time. I suspect that once the political parties (Repubs,
particularly) realize that a number of their current candidates
couldn't draw flies because of their extreme political beliefs, they
may start trying to find candidates that may have a legitimate chance
to win.
The next two years are going to be even worse.  Most of the folks
getting knocked off are going to be moderate Democrats.  The
extremists are usually in 'safe' districts (like Pelosi in San
Francisco).  Meanwhile, those moderate Democrats are being replaced by
extremist conservatives like Ray.
This is the best thing that could have happened for Obama.  Now he can
blame the obstructionists in the House when things don't get better.
Before he could only blame his own Party.  Losing the House takes
Pelosi out of the limelight, so the Republicans won't be able to play
'Newt Gingerich' with her in 2012.  Anything he REALLY doesn't want
the Senate can block and he doesn't have to veto anything, so his
hands look clean.
I keep hoping the Republican Party will wake up and realize that it
takes moderates to win, but I've pretty much given up on that.  I
think they'll run an extremist for President (because of the outcome
this year in the House, forgetting that nominating extremists cost
them their chance at the Senate) and Obama will walk to another 4
years.  The House will swing at least partly back towards the Dems, if
they don't regain control entirely.
Me, I think the smart thing to do is buy ammunition...
--
"Speed and Violence.  Death and Destruction.  
 Someone's gonna die.   We decide who."
                --VWF 11 Targeting
I already have ammunition, but I don't expect the end of the world (as
we know it) to happen because of this...

and if it makes you feel better, Sister Sarah's baby girl Bristol
didn't vote, either...

I suspect Todd had to--got to make the old lady look good, and all.

JML
the sun will rise tomorrow
Karl-Heinz Efkemann
2010-11-04 16:41:37 UTC
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JML
the sun will rise tomorrow
No, it will rain again :-(
--
Gruß,
Karl-Heinz
unknown
2010-11-05 15:14:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by Jane Margaret Laight
Seriously, you aren't the only person who has decided not to vote
because of the dearth of viable candidates or the lack of issues worth
your time. I suspect that once the political parties (Repubs,
particularly) realize that a number of their current candidates
couldn't draw flies because of their extreme political beliefs, they
may start trying to find candidates that may have a legitimate chance
to win.
The next two years are going to be even worse. Most of the folks
getting knocked off are going to be moderate Democrats. The
extremists are usually in 'safe' districts (like Pelosi in San
Francisco). Meanwhile, those moderate Democrats are being replaced by
extremist conservatives like Ray.
The Tea Party is NOT extremist... The Libs have been playing that song for over
a year and it never worked... Why are you buying into that garbage?

Ray
--
Glenn Beck Celebrates 2010 election!


Obama National Anthem
http://youtu.be/l46t_nrySg4

Join The Tea Party!
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill
Fred J. McCall
2010-11-05 15:46:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by unknown
Post by Fred J. McCall
The next two years are going to be even worse. Most of the folks
getting knocked off are going to be moderate Democrats. The
extremists are usually in 'safe' districts (like Pelosi in San
Francisco). Meanwhile, those moderate Democrats are being replaced by
extremist conservatives like Ray.
The Tea Party is NOT extremist...
Bullshit.
Post by unknown
The Libs have been playing that song for over
a year and it never worked...
Then why'd you lose the Senate races in Delaware and Connecticut?
Post by unknown
Why are you buying into that garbage?
Because, unlike you mindless ideologues, I usually buy into reality.
--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
only stupid."
-- Heinrich Heine
unknown
2010-11-05 16:28:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by unknown
Post by Fred J. McCall
The next two years are going to be even worse. Most of the folks
getting knocked off are going to be moderate Democrats. The
extremists are usually in 'safe' districts (like Pelosi in San
Francisco). Meanwhile, those moderate Democrats are being replaced by
extremist conservatives like Ray.
The Tea Party is NOT extremist...
Bullshit.
As you're so fond of typing "Cite?" so Cite evidence!

Ray
--
Glenn Beck Celebrates 2010 election!
http://youtu.be/GYPqv99l7rw

Obama National Anthem
http://youtu.be/l46t_nrySg4

Join The Tea Party!
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill
Fred J. McCall
2010-11-06 01:41:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by unknown
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by unknown
Post by Fred J. McCall
The next two years are going to be even worse. Most of the folks
getting knocked off are going to be moderate Democrats. The
extremists are usually in 'safe' districts (like Pelosi in San
Francisco). Meanwhile, those moderate Democrats are being replaced by
extremist conservatives like Ray.
The Tea Party is NOT extremist...
Bullshit.
As you're so fond of typing "Cite?" so Cite evidence!
Palin. O'Connell. Beck. YOU.
--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
unknown
2010-11-09 20:04:18 UTC
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Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by unknown
Post by Fred J. McCall
Post by unknown
Post by Fred J. McCall
The next two years are going to be even worse. Most of the folks
getting knocked off are going to be moderate Democrats. The
extremists are usually in 'safe' districts (like Pelosi in San
Francisco). Meanwhile, those moderate Democrats are being replaced by
extremist conservatives like Ray.
The Tea Party is NOT extremist...
Bullshit.
As you're so fond of typing "Cite?" so Cite evidence!
Palin. O'Connell. Beck. YOU.
Hahahaha! That's your cite to prove a vast right wing conspiracy? hahahaah!!!
You are so pathetic!

Ray
--
Rubio for President! (2012)

Glenn Beck Celebrates 2010 election!
http://youtu.be/GYPqv99l7rw

Obama National Anthem
http://youtu.be/l46t_nrySg4

Join The Tea Party!
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill
Fred J. McCall
2010-11-10 02:47:34 UTC
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Post by Fred J. McCall
The next two years are going to be even worse. Most of the folks
getting knocked off are going to be moderate Democrats. The
extremists are usually in 'safe' districts (like Pelosi in San
Francisco). Meanwhile, those moderate Democrats are being replaced by
extremist conservatives like Ray.
The Tea Party is NOT extremist...
Bullshit.
As you're so fond of typing "Cite?" so Cite evidence!
Palin. O'Connell. Beck. YOU.
Hahahaha! That's your cite to prove a vast right wing conspiracy? hahahaah!!!
You are so pathetic!
And yet you're the one making shit up and pretending I said it.
--
"You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of
your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear."
-- Mark Twain
unknown
2010-11-02 20:36:27 UTC
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I refuse to vote for someone who is going to go to Washington and I'll hate what they
do, PARTICULARLY if they keep all their promises.
Well, in that case I don't want to hear another word out of you complaining
about the state of the country or the political system or those in power...
Fred, get off your lazy arse and vote! You whiney but unvoting lazy bastard!

Then I'll talk to you about the political situation for the future... It's not
like it's BIG surprise to you... Or are you that moronic that this election came
as a surprise!?

If your sill too lazy and ignorant to bother to vote, then talk to the blowing
wind... Because that is what your opinion is worth.. SFA!!

If you DO bother to vote... we'll talk... if not... well... we all know about
those lazy bastards that whine a lot but are too lazy to bother doing anything
about it, even when presented with a gold invitation!! Right, Fred?

While you consider finally getting off your arse and opening your trailer door!
"Dont' the trees look all pretty this time of year Y'all?"

Heres some electoral predictions for you to digest:

Evil Witch AKA Nancy Pelosi? BYE!
Soclialist enabler AKA Harry Reid? BYE!
Thus breaks the evil progressive trinity!!
YEAH!!!!!

Liberal/Progressive Control of the House? DONE! BYE!
Liberal/Progressive Rape of the country? STOPPED!!!

IN my home state of MA...
Banking Queen(*)... AKA Barney Frank: BYE!
DEVIL Patrick (166 thousand jobs lost under my watch while I raised taxes while
promising I'd cut them... yeah.. right... ) Patrick? BYE!

(*):



Country OVERALL:

Nobama's Progressive Agenda? DOA!! WE SLAM ON THE BRAKES (THANKS TEA PARTY)!

Taking control of the House... A given... 50-80 seats gain! (at least!)

Taking control of the senate... possible... we only need 10.. Current
predictions are 8... But this is a storm! 10 is the least we desire!

Putting Obama's Liberal Progressive agenda on FULL HOLD! A given! Obama had
his time... He lost... It's over... Now is a return to sanity! Conservatives
outnumber Libs 2 to 1 and of those we are twice as motivated as they are to do
anything (I blame the drug smoking liberals... Talk a lot but ask them to get a
job or do something constructive to advance a cause and your effed)

Reversing NObamacare: Wil take a bit of work (Nobama veto)... But eventually
will happen...

Extending "Bush tax cuts"... MUST happen! Otherwise the Dems fade into
history as the "once powerful party" we'll read about in history books...

These next 2 years are formative... Let's see what happens!

Progressiveism is DEAD! Will remain DEAD... The Democratic Party, totally
infected by such progressives are DEAD! Needs to purge itself... If it can! Get
back to what being a Liberal/Democrat actually means...

What say you Fred the Lazy Unvoting Friendly RINO?

What say you everyone else that have an IQ greater than your shoe size?

Ray
--
Open Letter to US Democrat Politicians:
http://youtu.be/TpYEK_kYgi4

Obama National Anthem
http://youtu.be/l46t_nrySg4

Join The Tea Party!
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill
Fred J. McCall
2010-11-03 00:50:47 UTC
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Post by unknown
I refuse to vote for someone who is going to go to Washington and I'll hate what they
do, PARTICULARLY if they keep all their promises.
Well, in that case I don't want to hear another word out of you complaining
about the state of the country or the political system or those in power...
Fred, get off your lazy arse and vote! You whiney but unvoting lazy bastard!
I'll simply point out that you snipped out my entire response to you
indicating just why I'm not voting. Pretty intellectually dishonest
of you, but I guess that's what one should expect from 'head up and
locked' ideologues.

Again, just who should I vote for? I don't want any of them and they
won't let me vote for "Throw them all out".
Post by unknown
Then I'll talk to you about the political situation for the future...
So if I didn't vote you WON'T? Well, I didn't vote.
Post by unknown
It's not
like it's BIG surprise to you... Or are you that moronic that this election came
as a surprise!?
It's not a surprise at all. There's also nobody I want to vote for. I
don't want to send Democrats back so they can do more of the same and
I don't want to send some right wing fuckwit back so they can do all
the wrong things. So who do you suggest I vote for and just what do
you suggest I do when they win and go do exactly what I didn't want
them to do that led me to not want to vote for them in the first
place?
Post by unknown
If your sill too lazy and ignorant to bother to vote, then talk to the blowing
wind... Because that is what your opinion is worth.. SFA!!
So go away and STFU. The silence from your direction would no doubt
be welcomed by many more than me.
Post by unknown
If you DO bother to vote... we'll talk... if not... well... we all know about
those lazy bastards that whine a lot but are too lazy to bother doing anything
about it, even when presented with a gold invitation!! Right, Fred?
You really don't get it, do you? It's not a matter of "bother to
vote". It's a deliberate decision not to. What "gold invitation" am
I being offered, you ignorant shite? The 'invitation' to vote for
people I don't want in office? Some 'gold' you got there.
Post by unknown
While you consider finally getting off your arse and opening your trailer door!
"Dont' the trees look all pretty this time of year Y'all?"
Sorry, but I'm not a Tea Party adherent. That's the PROBLEM. If your
characterization of me above was true, I would have voted the way you
are.
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Evil Witch AKA Nancy Pelosi? BYE!
Only if she retires or quits.
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Soclialist enabler AKA Harry Reid? BYE!
Maybe. Maybe not.
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IN my home state of MA...
Solid blue.
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Banking Queen(*)... AKA Barney Frank: BYE!
Yeah, right.
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DEVIL Patrick (166 thousand jobs lost under my watch while I raised taxes while
promising I'd cut them... yeah.. right... ) Patrick? BYE!
Still there, too. Jesus, you're just delusional, aren't you?

And who cares, anyway? Any that lose will be replaced by people who
will be even worse. That's why I'm not voting. No candidates worth
electing.

And I'll ignore the fact that you're nuts.
Post by unknown
Nobama's Progressive Agenda? DOA!! WE SLAM ON THE BRAKES (THANKS TEA PARTY)!
Yeah, thanks, Tea Party. If not for you we could have taken control
of the Senate.
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Taking control of the House... A given... 50-80 seats gain! (at least!)
Yep, but what will you be able to get done? Nothing, I hope, because
there are a bunch of folks with some REALLY bad ideas being sent up.
Post by unknown
Taking control of the senate... possible... we only need 10.. Current
predictions are 8... But this is a storm! 10 is the least we desire!
If you don't get what you desire will you move to Canada? Please?
Because you aren't going to get the Senate, largely because of Tea
Party darlings like O'Connell who just aren't competitive outside the
nut house. Republicans COULD have taken the Senate if not for you and
yours.
Post by unknown
Putting Obama's Liberal Progressive agenda on FULL HOLD! A given! Obama had
his time... He lost... It's over... Now is a return to sanity!
Not even close.
Post by unknown
Conservatives outnumber Libs 2 to 1
True, but a lot of your count is conservatives like me, who can't vote
for the folks you want even if they hold their nose.
Post by unknown
... and of those we are twice as motivated as they are to do
anything (I blame the drug smoking liberals...
You're insane.
Post by unknown
Talk a lot but ask them to get a
job or do something constructive to advance a cause and your effed)
Yeah, that's how we wind up with all the stuff into law that you don't
like. Those damned do-nothing liberals.

<sneer>
Post by unknown
Reversing NObamacare: Wil take a bit of work (Nobama veto)... But eventually
will happen...
Don't hold your breath. Two years from now odds are that a lot of
your wingnuts are going to get tossed right back out.
Post by unknown
Extending "Bush tax cuts"... MUST happen! Otherwise the Dems fade into
history as the "once powerful party" we'll read about in history books...
These next 2 years are formative... Let's see what happens!
Progressiveism is DEAD! Will remain DEAD... The Democratic Party, totally
infected by such progressives are DEAD! Needs to purge itself... If it can! Get
back to what being a Liberal/Democrat actually means...
What say you Fred the Lazy Unvoting Friendly RINO?
I say you're a fucking idiot.
Post by unknown
What say you everyone else that have an IQ greater than your shoe size?
Is there ANYONE who doesn't think you're a moron when you screech like
this?
--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
only stupid."
-- Heinrich Heine
Fred J. McCall
2010-10-27 03:15:19 UTC
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I see myself as a news bringer... That is why I ask "What say you?"
at the end of almost every post... I really DO want to know what people think...
I listen to voices on the left as well as the right... I take it all in and
determine what is truth for me... etc... I'm rambling now... You get it...
What say you? :-)
I say you're fooling yourself.
--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
unknown
2010-10-26 16:29:46 UTC
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Post by Ray O'Hara
it was first used in the American Revolution and before the teabaggers
started using it
it was used by ultra-left revolutionaries in the 60s-70s.
now righwing extremists are using it.
I went to the Teaparty website Ray provided and found nothing right wing or
extreme in their agenda.
We have worked tirelessly to push out any racists that have been encountered...
We have been told to take pics of our rallies of anyone we suspect is either a
shoe size IQ racist moron or a plant by the progressives holding a deliberately
provocative sign... We're onto that game!
Post by conwaycaine
Other than the fact they seem to want to give Liberals the boot.
But then, some might consider that extreme.
The Teaparty folks seem to be much more Libertarian than destroyers of
Western Civilization.
And Libertarians, sir, are not Neocon knuckledraggers.
My knuckles are a good four feet off the ground.
Restoring Honor and Integetery to America! Supporting traditional family
values! Showing due respect to those fallen soldiers and wounded warriors that
put their lives on the line so that liberal morons could curse them back home
and never understand the sacrifice... Putting faith in God and not
Government...

Ray
--
Open Letter to US Democrat Politicians:
http://youtu.be/TpYEK_kYgi4

Obama National Anthem
http://youtu.be/l46t_nrySg4

Join The Tea Party!
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill
Jesus Fucking H. Christ on a Bike
2010-11-01 15:25:20 UTC
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Post by conwaycaine
first used in the American Revolution and before the teabaggers started
using it
it was used by ultra-left revolutionaries in the 60s-70s. now righwing
extremists are using it.
I went to the Teaparty website Ray provided and found nothing right wing
or extreme in their agenda.
Other than the fact they seem to want to give Liberals the boot. But
then, some might consider that extreme.
The Teaparty folks seem to be much more Libertarian than destroyers of
Western Civilization.
And Libertarians, sir, are not Neocon knuckledraggers. My knuckles are a
good four feet off the ground.
Which is quite an accomplishment when you consider your head is four feet up your arse.
conwaycaine
2010-11-01 20:07:32 UTC
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Post by conwaycaine
And Libertarians, sir, are not Neocon knuckledraggers. My knuckles are a
good four feet off the ground.
Which is quite an accomplishment when you consider your head is four feet up your arse.
Not at all difficult for me.
You Harps, OTOH, being none too skilled in things physical, might find it
more of a problem.
unknown
2010-10-22 21:56:18 UTC
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 12:34:50 -0400, WhiteWolf!
Post by unknown
Wolfie note: For those of you not familiar with the Gadsden Flag. It's the
often seen at Tea Parties, "Don't thread on me" flag with a coiled snake! It
was used as the USMC flag.
Ray
--
Swap the coiled snake for a coiled turd of shite.
Keep the 'correct' words. and colours.

max.it (the orange cage)
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